i mean he s speculated that he could be indicted, and you have people who have been indicted who are probably looking at that. and there has been open speculation among people close to paul manafort, for instance, that he could be in for a pardon as long as he held strong. you see the pressure on him to flip. you see his longtime deputy rick gates flipping. you have to wonder. manafort is racking up these huge legal bills, if this isn t part of his thinking that if he doesn t flip, there could be some relief at the end. jonathan swan, ken vogel, gentlemen, thank you both very much for being part of our thursday night. coming up today, president trump gave one reporter some exclusive news on north korea. that reporter tells us what the president told him next when the 11th hour continues. the best way to hit the beach? with neutrogena® beach defense® sunscreen. helioplex™ powered, uva uvb strong. beach strength protection for the whole family.
watching him, even his appearance is changing a bit. he s got to be under an unbelievable amount of stress. the big question is will he flip. the question i have for you is. can he flip enough to save himself at this point from going to jail? he s one of the few people that i believe can raise the flag and say i ve got what you need. and i think that s going to happen. when he sees the federal sentencing guidelines, the criminal exposure he has, he goes back to his family and says you re not going to see me for decades, he s going to flip. and how does he save himself? he talks about the big man. he talks about the president of the united states. so he could avoid jail time if he flipped enough? i believe if he provides criminal exposure of president trump he s looking at minimal, minimal prison time, or a complete recommendation that he do nothing but it s fascinating. he hasn t been indicted for anything, but your gut watching this is he s headed to serious criminal exp
fascinating. donald trump says he s innocent but then he says he won t flip. and then it s he s innocent, i m not ruling out a pardon. of course these pardons at the end of the day probably won t mean a thing because you ll have eric schneiderman and the new york attorney general s office taking whatever the southern district of new york finds and whatever bob mueller finds and prosecuting them at the state level. that raid carried out by the southern district and the fbi on michael cohen a couple weeks ago, his office, his hotel room, his home clearly rattled the president of the united states and got him to tweeting because he consumes media, as we all know, and he s hearing the whispers or the shouts, actually that michael cohen, his trusted attorney, his trusted ally, his trusted fixer could be compelled when faced with the possibility of jail time and not seeing his two children for a very long time to flip on the president. now it may not be as easy as
all the time and then fired james comey and then went on tv in front of the russian ambassador talking about why he fired james comey and then tweeted about it and sent i don t know how many dozens of tweets about james comey. now he wants to fire robert mueller, he s acting like he s guilty, that may be because he s guilty or because he s psychotic, one of the two, but it s not a good swak ituation t have the president of the united states behaving this way. i don t want to invite speculation, but i will talk about some of the people rounding my reporting, one individual who worked closely with him for a decade, michael might think he won t flip on the president, but he will, do you see that as a possibility? i don t know what s going on with michael cohen, but from what i m hearing in the news reports, very little of what he s been doing is the practice of law and paying off porn stars may be only the beginning of it.
currently battling prosecutors in the southern district of new york over how to handle the materials seized in last week s raid on cohen s home, office and hotel room. we re now awaiting the judge s decision on who gets to decide what material federal investigators can review and what material is protektded by attorney client privilege. that investigation and the fact that cohen is a figure in the mueller probe is led to speculation of whether he d protect the president if pressed by prosecutors. reports that the general sense is that when faced with jail time, cohen will not remain loyal to trump. reports think they all think the new york investigation is a way to get trump and that none would be surprised if cohen did in fact break the law. a source who has worked slowsly with cohen for ten years says michael might believe he won t flip on the president but he will. it s one thing to be loyal when you re taking shots in the