that is the way the system works. it women be even worse next year. bill: will make january interesting. mitch mcconnell in the senate, argument you re making robly all likelihood pass from the house to the senate. we ll see very interesting decisions by white house. karl rove, thank you. in austin. merry christmas. bill: merry christmas to you. one of the biggest power players in hollywood is now in some serious hot water after leaked emails show her joking about president obama with many people calling those remarks at the least racially insensitive. bill: also a time capsule, a bit of a mystery. more than 200 years ago by some very problem men figures in u.s. history. prominent. it was very, very hard and dense. we were thinking it might be crumbly after so many years. it is quite solid. so it has taken a long time to chris sill it and drill it.
hillary clinton or whoever the democratic nominee is, what would you do in this situation? how would you handle it? the backdrop could be more isis. are at backdrop could be more terrorist attacks. what happens, let me ask this. god forbid it does happen, what if there is another terrorist attack? and somehow it is because jihadists were sharpening their blades thinking, let s go get americans because look how terrible they are. where does that blame lie? martha: we ll see. kt, thank you very much. good to have you as always. bill: go navy. beat army. bill: are we allowed to say that? martha: kt on the set. better say nothing but that. jack keane is not around. bill: we ll get keane s view next hour. severe weather slamming the west coast. a powerful storm causing dangerous flooding. evacuations have been ordered for some. the latest where a fierce storm is heading now. martha? martha: republicans not in control of the senate yet but battles are already breaking out in congress.
things but in public they were saying supportive things. bill: what do you think about brennan had to say? is he trying to have it both ways? he is definitely trying to have it both ways. think one second what john brennan is trying to say it makes no sense. on one hand he is saying, look, we don t know there is cause effect relationship between the use of these techniques and valuable information that was provided. but if you peel that back a little bit we could know that you had detainees formally resistant, uncooperative. they were put through the enhanced interrogation techniques and cale out on the other end and were later cooperative. brennan would have you believe that was a mere coincidence. i think what brennan is trying to do is reconcile the president s view, the president s decision to stop the use of these techniques with the senate s complaint that they didn t work at all and all of that against a backdrop that he knows that they worked and that the cia believes they wo
martha: chris, thank you so much. have a great weekend. bill: he knows nothing about the bar. martha: i know nothing about the bar talk. bill: karl rove last hour arguing it s part of a working strategy from house speaker john boehner, get through the rest of the year. i m saying this is the last acts of dysfunctionalty. boehner wants to get it so that next year n2015 in 2015, in the budget that goes from october of 2015 to the end of 2016, that they do it as is required by law in regular order so that these budgets can be examined in detail by the respective committees of house and senate and done and have plenty of time to consider these things. bill: do you agree with that? what will change in the next congress? send us a tweet @billhemmer and @martha jon maccallum. also our facebook page,
is that gatwick? i don t even know if those planes even fly over the city of london. more to the outskirts, but there you see a little bit that s file video. we had a live image, but it s not in just yet. a computer glitch has the air space shut down over london. what s that all about? martha: we ll see what s going on there. bill: we shall. martha: and just how private are your private conversations? this is a huge and growing story. there s new backlash from this sony cyber attack over leaked e-mails from hollywood power players making racially-charged remarks about the president and more. bill: also what was just found growing in queen elizabeth s royal garden. it s a trip. watch out for the white rabbits.