election. once again in the spotlight, no one other than wisconsin s senator ron johnson. after the committee revealed on tuesday that one of his top staffers messaged an aide to vice president mike pence about johnson passing fake slates of trump electors for wisconsin and michigan to vice president mike pence by hand on january 6th. a pence aide promptly shut it down texting the johnson staffer this, quote. do not give that to him, end quote, but that attempted handoff still begs many questions like what did ron johnson know about the scheme to set up false electors which is under criminal investigation by the justice department. here s johnson on capitol hill dodging questions from reporters. how much did you know about what your chief of staff was doing with the alternate slates of electors? no, you re not. i can see your phone. i can see your screen. did you know what your chief of staff was doing? does your chief of staff still work for you, sir? can you expla
credible evidence whatsoever. so what trump clearly did, he just kept rotating people through the seat until he found the guy to carry out his investigation. jeffrey clark, hardly a household name, maybe he will be after tomorrow to some people. all this was was trump going after person after person until he literally found the people that had no bottom, had no guardrails whatsoever. bill barr had a bottom and he hit that bottom in december and said i m out. let s find the guy who has no bottom and he ll run the coup for me. trump was literally installing people who would overturn the election. second, if he gets back in the oval office, those people are going to be there on day one. right, jeffrey clark will be the ag. we ll be living in a straight-up the corruption of justice to service the ends of the leader is the chief core characteristic of an
york times work correspond and ben rhodes former national security adviser to president obama. maya wiley, i start with you. in some ways this is the part of the scheme we ve heard about for the longest because of bill barr s res statement that there was no fraud and now his taped deposition before the january 6th committee that he thought it was all bs. what are you looking for? what questions do you still have for these three doj officials? i have to tell you, nicolle, i don t have a lot of questions. what we know already is that from the lee leased emails and texts and the testimony clips that you just played, is that department of justice officials, folks actually who like a jeffrey rosen who were, frankly
testimony from other trump white house staff explaining what mr. cipollone said and did including on january 6th. we think the american people deserve to hear from mr. cipollone personally. he should appear before this committee and we are working to secure his testimony. harry litman, his predecessor don mcgahn spent hours and hours with robert mueller. i think when there is a potential for criminal activity, is that something that you can shield with privilege claims? what is this about? you can try. so as white house counsel, he s in a position where you can try to say i have a special relation to the office of the presidency, and i also have a special relationship to donald trump. cipollone is a barr acolyte, a bill barr acolyte and we know from early on he repeatedly told trump, eastman, others as did his staff this is unlawful and
press conference until that day. part of what you have to do is bill barr, not the most non-partisan guy in the world, but bill barr saying the justice department does not work for you as your personal attorneys. they don t do your bidding. they don t try to win your case of public opinion in conveying wild conspiracy theories that are not at all backed by facts. they have to convey just how much they were trying to take over the machinery of justice in the united states of american to turn it over to his theory to legitimize a coup essentially. this won t come up tomorrow i don t think. but the justice department in those last six months, last year of trump s administration or even going back to when barr started enabled trump in ways that were extraordinary, that went beyond what sessions had done. so, if you re trump, and there s