biden investigation and burisma/2016 election investigation, is that right? yes. youn, say, hopefully that wi break the logjam. at this point you knew that the security assistance had been on hold for five weeks, is that right? i became aware on the 18th of july. and you understood there was a lot of activity within the state department and elsewhere to try to get that hold lifted, is that right? that s right. just about everybody in the interagency, meeting the national security apparatus, wanted to lift the hold and wanted the aid to go to ukraine? correct. so what did you mean here when you said, logjam? ja well, as i said to chairma schiff, i meant inclusively anything that was holding up the meeting and the ukraine/u.s. relationship. and what was holding that up? at that point it was the