ayman tonight. trump s legal panels more problems for his family, and the same old arguments that just don t make sense. we have all of the details. plus, the republican attack on our education system could spell disaster for a generation of children. black parents are taking matters into their own hands. my exclusive conversation with the european union s ambassador to the united states. his take on where the war in ukraine is heading next. i m damon, let s get started. tonight we begin with new developments three separate legal matters involving donald trump. special counsel jack smith has now asked a judge to compel mike pence to comply with the grand dirty soup peanut to comply with his attorney in the criminal investigation over trump s the sealed motion came after attorneys for trump asserted de chantle privilege over the subpoena, and pence himself has said that he will fight that subpoena, though he has argued his former role as president of the senate, whic
attorneys for trump asserted de chantle privilege over the subpoena, and pence himself has said that he will fight that subpoena, though he has argued his former role as president of the senate, which he held by virtue of being vice president, means that he is covered by the constitution speech and debate clause, which can protect legislative branch members from any legal threats related to that work. in the next hour, we are going to dive into that argument, and the leading conservatives who believe it really doesn t make sense. the special counsel has also set his sights on the trump family. this, week the new york times reported that smith obtained grand jury subpoenas compelling the testimony of trump s daughter, of uncle trump, and her husband, jared kushner, in that same investigation. and there is the special grand jury in georgia that investigated trump s efforts to overturn that states 2020 election results. in a stunning twist, the four women of the jury said this
that they could be asked about, and at least the pence s said that he is going to fight the subpoena, who trump have suggested he ll play with executive privilege, while playing with the legislative privilege speech and debate clause. both will fail for sure. former president trump did not intervene when his daughter and son in law testified for the january six committee, so he may not do it again. they may be able to testify without that been raised. jennifer, one of the things that has surprised me, and maybe i m, wrong is how much work jack smith has already done. i don t know if he s already done the work, or he s relying perhaps on the january six committee, which is giving him a head start. i am surprised at how relevant and few attacks he has received from trump and his allies. i feel like during the mueller investigation, it was nonstop
ayman tonight. trump s legal panels more problems for his family, and the same old arguments that just don t make sense. we have all of the details. plus, the republican attack on our education system could spell disaster for a generation of children. black parents are taking matters into their own hands. my exclusive conversation with the european union s ambassador to the united states. his take on where the war in ukraine is heading next. i m damon, let s get started. tonight we begin with new developments three separate legal matters involving donald trump. special counsel jack smith has now asked a judge to compel mike pence to comply with the grand dirty soup peanut to comply with his attorney in the criminal investigation over trump s the sealed motion came after
fact indicted, his lawyers can look at that, and file a motion to dismiss that indictment, arguing that these revelations are tantamount to a grand jury and propriety. if all that is not enough, there is one more legal issue facing donald trump that flew under the radar this week. a federal judge ordered that trump can be questioned under oath, by attorneys, for two former fbi employees, that alleged second lawsuits that they were illegally targeted for much of youshan over their roles and the russian investigation. it is a big one for two of trump s favorite punching bags, peter strzok, and lisa page. joining me now are jill wine-banks, formerassistant watergate prosecutor, co-host of the sisters and law podcast and msnbc legal analyst. as well as an opinion is for the washington post, an msn bce political analyst as well. it s great to have both of you with us. jill, lots to unpack here. at like to start with you on the special counsel s moves.