continues to spawn violence across the country. meanwhile on capitol hill, the stalemate over the debt ceiling continues as the country hits its borrowing limit. we ll have the latest on efforts by the white house to find some sort of compromise. plus, the george santos saga takes another really strange turn. now there are questions about where his mother was on 9/11. also ahead, we are hours away from a decision on criminal charges in the deadly shooting on the set of rust. remember that? we ll get you caught up on the case that could come to a major development this morning. and we ll dig into new reporting on an aggressive new proposal from the biden administration as it pertains to the war in ukraine. joe has the morning off but willie and i are here in new york, and we have with us, the former aid to the george w. bush white house and state department, elise jordan, an msnbc political analyst. former white house communications director under president obama, jennifer
so, when will ginni thomas tell the committee all she knows about the insurrection? as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night good evening once again, i m stephanie ruhle. today the, january 6th committee made a powerful case about the relentless pressure donald trump and his allies put on mike pence to unlawfully overturn the 2020 election results. this afternoon, the committee presented detailed evidence revealing the intensity of that effort and the real danger pence was in on the day of the insurrection. mike pence, i hope you are going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. and if you are not, i m going to be very disappointed in you, i will tell you right now. i m telling you what, i m hearing the pence, i m hearing that pence just caved no i m hearing reports that pence caved. i m telling you, if pence caved, we are going to bleep through the streets. [inaudible] bring him out! bring out pence!
stephanie ruhle. today the, january 6th committee made a powerful case about the relentless pressure donald trump and his allies put on mike pence to unlawfully overturn the 2020 election results. this afternoon, the committee presented detailed evidence revealing the intensity of that effort and the real danger pence was in on the day of the insurrection. mike pence, i hope you are going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. and if you are not, i m going to be very disappointed in you, i will tell you right now. i m telling you what, i m hearing the pence, i m hearing that pence just caved no i m hearing reports that pence caved. i m telling you, if pence caved, we are going to bleep through the streets. [inaudible] bring him out! bring out pence! hang mike pence, hang mike pence! hang mike pence! [noise] hang mike pence, that s what they were chanting. today s star witnesses, two key republicans, pence s former w
not completely, but you see how this is getting pretty this is someone running for office. he s approved by the state party. so you see where it s gone just from donald trump s talk. how many times were we told, this is loose talk, he doesn t mean it, and so many republicans in on the joke, and there are plenty of people who aren t in on the joke now, and it s scary. is it possible as the doj investigates january 6th that events like this could also play a role to show the result of the behavior if there is a case against donald trump. that s interesting because now we have evidence that if you ask the question how far can this belief in the big lie go, well, you can point to this case, obviously right now a state case, and say, oh, this appears to be the outer limits, at least so far, of what people will do if they believe they
authoritarian push, because that s where the long term damage to this nation that would be irreparable harm comes from the next person. not even trump to 0.0, but the next martyr person wants these authoritarian ambitions. charlie, where does the big lie go from here? now that it s playing for all the world to see, we can look back at those, which was a, 137 republicans in the house, that didn t vote to certify the election. what are they say now? all the people that just won primaries, i mean, david mccormack, he was treasury undersecretary. he wouldn t even answer who won the last election. that guy knew who won, and the whole country just saw him like, while his wife raced money from every goldman sachs partner. first of all, donald trump s and all caps, it was a statement about equal time. that s a recognition, kind of telling us that he sees it as an effective television show,