transcript, and i think most of the press in that room understands that that s off limits as well for the protection of these people, particularly given the environment in which they re living, which is a donald trump who continues to tweet about participants in this proceeding and who will not face a hearing for criminal contempt, at least until this coming tuesday. so given that, i think everybody is trying to exercise some caution here. it was chilling to hear her say i don t think i can participate anymore because of how much information is already out there about me. i have my friends and family texting me asking is this you. that s got to be an uncomfortable and frightening place for any person in this city to be right now. lisa rubin, our eyes and ears. thank you very much for joining us. let me bring into our coverage, isaac arnsdorf, the national political reporter for the washington post. he was the pool reporter today inside the courtroom, tell us what that was like. i
he s a star witness to the facts and the actual hush money works and how donald trump paid him. but under subpoena as well, he voluntaryly be there. and there has to be i want to press into this, but how much can you sequester a juror and their family? one thing that is going on in the courtroom and donald trump got rocked for it from the judge, one juror came in and he was making gestures towards this woman. he got yelled at by the judge for it. he s trying everything. he s going as far as he can. i think the judge is trying not to sanction him at this point. this is the tug of war going on and n that courtroom right now. as we re seating more jurors right now, i can see more coming in and having second thoughts.
who knows what we re not seeing from that overflow. there are very few people in the courtroom right now. it s full of jurors and a few pool reporters. there s a the lot that we may not be catching that s going on. it s amazing. no one is going anywhere. when we come back, someone that can speak to how donald trump is continuing to use the rule of law to delegitimize the democratic institutions and put people in danger, plus the challenge of not just keeping a jury pool safe, but how do you navigate the kind of psychological warfare the ex-president and allies engage in brazenly without any fear at this point of consequences. usually there are many. we ll talk about that next. and later in the broadcast, donald trump s accomplices in the gop. even those who called him out for who he is, for choosing allegiance to one man over the country. wait until you hear how those on the right were justifying their support for the man currently seated at a defense table for just the first of hi
that he is being singled out for special negative treatment, right? he s saying he is the victim of a witchhunt, when the reality is he is actually being singled out as was pointed out in the previous panel for special treatment and is being given so much running room, what i really fear is it s posing a threat to the physical safety of the various actors in the courtroom. and to your point, in your experience and your history, it is exactly what he does, and so far no force, not the presidency, not serving as the commander in chief, not being charged with 88 felonies, no force has changed. he rolls unusually because he s had an unusual amount of luck, you know, as a young man he was surrounded and insulated by money, and then he became a tv celebrity, and he enjoyed the insulation that celebrity provided him. then he became president, and now he s got the enormous legal
it s going to be exhausting for everybody involved, and they re going to have to operate on multiple fronts, the appellant front, the trial front, what s happening outside of the courtroom, so i think it can happen, and i hope very much it happens without any incident. sue craig, we have taken so much of your time, an hour and a half to be exact. thank you so much for being here. i hope you ll come back tomorrow. of course. all of the news. everyone else sticks around. much more in our breaking news coverage, the full 12-person jury in donald trump s hush money election interference trial has been seated. our correspondent lisa rubin is on the way making her way to the cameras. she ll join us in just a minute. deadline white house continues after a quick break. don t go anywhere. ontinues after a quick break. don t go anywhere. the night. it s all the things that keep this world turning. it s the go-tos that keep us going. the places we cheer. trust. hang out. and check in. the