campaign from his former bos and 2020 and today mike penc appeared before the grand jury investigating january six. what his testimony could mea for the special counsel. and then the parents of louisville shooter speak out i an emotional interview what are they are saying about for real change. and it is more than just hollywood magic, how artificia intelligence is transforming movies, music, and eve politics but at what cost as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night goo evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle live fro washington d.c. tonight wher there is a major development i the special counse investigation into forme president donald trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election according to a source familiar with the matter, today, former vice president mike penc testified for hours before the federal grand jury in the case the january six committe already shed some light on wha pence did that day in th capitol riot we have seen video of then vic president p
cover. ryan, you ve been covering thi all day long what we know at this hour, wha exactly happened today the biggest news probably that he spent a ton of tim without granary. got there really early, ther are a couple of motorcades tha came in, that were spotted early that morning we suspected something was up. i recently had heard that th 27th could be the date when th grand jury testimony was happening. but he was brought down to a garage a garage apparently plays a bi role here because that is wher he hid during the capito attack and that is how he they brought him in through th garage, brought him up to th third floor for those grandeur rooms were all of these secret proceedings are taking place then they spent over a lon time, they re talking with 2 americans who are looking into this effort to overturn th 2020 election and what donal trump, if any, had been a th village either so it is a very huge investigation. we ve been watching this graduate come in frequently, and there i
news became so large. i think it was surprising the recently given that it was this was sort of legacy system. i know he what your client and you would never let him go would talk to the wall street journal. definitely nope it is better than testifying in front of congress but not of it makes an sense. what you think he is trying accomplish? i think arrogance plays a bi role in all this and is going o apology tour and trying to win over the court of public opinio but at the end of the day he should just stop here. trace: it s interesting to me because you think would you talk about congress ago before congress, no more softball questions. he s done a couple interviews and got a few softball question and nobody has hit them again o the facts of the case. i m wondering why that is? do you think there is a tactic here? i don t know about any tacti another donations were made. if there s something that we need to know about other than