for the government is for him to resign. i think the biggest problem is the attorney general is the highest law enforcement officer in the country. he will explain that one. they will say that he didn t lie but purposely misleading or technically gaining i agree it s the same thing. we don t expect the attorney general to be slick. if he has a good explanation let s see it and then move on. dana, thank you. first the fast and furious now the snooping and spying. attorney general eric holder is no stranger to scandal. he has a long and respectable legal career. bernie grim joins us. is it bernie i have known the attorney general for 25 years he had a great reputation when he was on the bench with the judge. he was talking today about using the word slick. no one would have that in the sense as the u.s. attorney or ag.
intend to seek schargs for every day of rape, felonious assault, all of these attempted murders and act of aggravated murder by terminating pregnancies that the offender perpetuated against the hostages during this decade long ordeal. the prosecutor confirms it could include the death penalty. we know for sure the dna is back from the lab. it shows ariel castro is the father of amanda berry s 6-year-old child. joining us, our legal panel. jim hammer in washington defense lawyer bernie grim. he says he s going to charge for each day of kidnapping. is that legally possible. is this one kidnapping or 10 years times 365 or whatever it is kidnapping count? the good news is, it doesn t matter much because on the
sexual assault each separate rape is a sexual crime you could stack those up this guy is never getting out of prison. on the kidnapping issue if you move that person again from one room to the other i don t think it s a separate time. the prosecutor could argue if the victims left the house and he forced them back into the house the key being into a place of greater danger to the victim you could argue those are separate acts of kidnapping. bernie? why would you affect this record with something that would be volition for this guy. if he had the women outside and brought them inside that s another count if they we in another room and forced them to go to the other room why would you take that chance. you could stack the sexual assaults probably at this point another murder and get this guy. he said he was going to charge each aggravated murder for each pregnancy he terminated as a result of this conduct. how does he prove that? is it enough for a woman to say it happened five tim
him? were you crying when you slashed his throat and negated that crying. you could tell he had practiced that a few times. i think the weirdest part is that she was selling her artwork during the dispriel she s on twitter and makes phone calls and someone tweets. i think she follows donald trump on twitter. she follows me. she follows you, troy? she does, yes. i get on her all the time. she is raising money for domestic violence shelters and all kinds of things. it s interesting. she seems so numb. disconnected with the trial. i mean, cases i have represented first-degree murder caisses. you know you won 18 in a row i did not. bernie always says that greta has never said it. that s the word on the street. that s such a lie. i think no matter what comes out of this, i believe that the prosecutor should have entered into an agreement for
saying, what s going on? this is an open-and-shut case. jury instructions, 22 pages. 500 exhibits. three harjs, first-degree murder, second-degree, manslaughter. i think we are getting a verdict tomorrow afternoon, if i had to guess. we are going to be standing by and watching. troy, stay with us. during the trial, jurors seeing hours of the police interrogating jodi through wild scenes and we wondered whether that would influence the jury verdict. trying to enter, try to kill somebody, i would keep gloves. the legal panel in san francisco, jim hammer and here in washington, bernie grim and troy hayden is still with us. this is the wildest craziest moment in the case? hopefully, troy is still there. the defense lawyer, her own lawyer, trying to vindicate her