here he is unsparing in his rejection of trump and giuliani s election fraud delusions. i told them that the stuff that his people were shoveling out to the public was bull [ bleep ]. that the claims of fraud were bull [ bleep ], and you know, made a statement about that, but i reiterated that they wasted a whole month on these claims on the dominion voting machines and they were idiotic claims. i specifically raised a dominion voting machines which i found to be among the most disturbing allegations and disturbing in the sense that i saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations, but they were made in such a sensational way that they obviously were influencing a lot of people, members of the public, that there was this systemic corruption in the system and that their votes didn t count and that these machines controlled by somebody else were actually determining it which was complete nonsense, and it was being laid out there, and i told him that it was that it was stuff
job. and it s a separate level of accountability. so, we re going to do our job. we re going to tell the story. we re going to talk about the causes of january 6th and what led up to that as well as the deadly violence on the 6th itself. we look forward to telling that story and sharing, and we ll allow the department of justice to do what they need to do. congressman, we just got in some response from rudy giuliani s lawyer that seems to contradict the sworn testimony from someone i believe to be close to rudy giuliani, and that s jason miller. so, robert costello, an attorney for giuliani, tells nbc news this. mayor giuliani denies that he was intoxicated and denies that he was drinking at all, and he suggests that you talk to other people who were there. do you think it s interesting that that s what there s a problem with, not the fact that his claims of fraud contradict hours of bill barr s testimony? yeah, out of all the things that we shared with the american public, the f
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crazies and the people who were happy to go along with the crazy if they could get career to go forward but it was the crazies who kept winning because trump was a crazy and that s the nature of politics. at the end of the day, the staff is going to really the principal and there s nothing you can do to change donald trump from being the person that he was. and i think the other word for them are enablers and the enablers are the oxygen for the fire that is the crazies who burn down not just the republican party but our democracy. it was an incredible day of testimony. we ll see. i mean, neal, to your starting point, we ll see if as many people catch this one in its news coverage and the actual testimony, we ll continue to call on both of you to talk through it together. tim miller, neal katyal, thank you so much for spending time with us today. up next for us, january 6th select committee member pete aguilar will be our guest. don t go anywhere. ber pete aguilar will be our guest.
me a little uneasy when i hear the attorney general saying, i and all my prosecutors are watching it. i hope they already know what s coming. i don t know that that makes me feel good to hear him say that, but there s a lot out there, and i certainly think that the department of justice is going to be very beside for the foreseeable future. i want to understand why it makes you feel bad. to me, it s, you know, the insurrectionists don t exist without trump spreading the big lie and sending the december 19th tweet, come, quote, it will be wild. but tell me, just explain, pete, why you feel uncomfortable with merrick garland basically saying, pop some popcorn and watching just like america. well, two reasons. first is, i think my hope would be that the department of justice. in the conduct of the investigations that they re doing with the fbi and other law enforcement partners, should be out ahead of the fact pattern of whatever congress is chasing. in other words, as an investigator