electorate think about different issues including the trump base, it s frankly irrelevant. this is about how kim jong-un and how the japanese and how the south koreans and how the american service members and their families in south korea and japan and guam, how they are receiving these words and how the threat ultimately what ultimately happens with north korea. what about this interview that sebastian gorka did with the bbc, this trump adviser, i know you interviewed. this line, the idea that tillerson is going to discuss military matters is simply nonsense sennone sen nonsensical, generally it should be mattis, what did you make of that? i thought it was in any other white house or administration it would be unusual, but in a white house like this one, in which there s so much infighting, when you have bannon versus mcmaster. now you have gorka trying to
i think when mcmaster looks at trump, he must think to himself, this is totally outside my army experience. all i can think is when mcmaster looks at bannon, he thinks this is like dealing with an islamic extremist in iraq. you think that? i think so. he s trying to fathom, who is this guy? where does he come from? what does he want? mcmaster did work effectively with islamic extremists in iraq, brought some over to his side. i think he s probably been trying to do that with bannon, but ultimately if he has to, he ll snap his neck. his u.s. policy and his ideas really led to the surge back in 2007. josh, here s one of the things you said about this. you said bannon is the authentic connection to and representation of trump s base politics. the one thing that trump fears most in the world is losing that connection and losing that support to his base. does that mean that if it were to come to bannon versus mcmaster, bannon wins?
third headline, national security council purge mcmaster deeply hostile to israel and trump. do you think it will work? do you think he will survive in the west wing long term is. i think it will work in the sense that if it comes down to trump having to make a choice between bannon and mcmaster, i think he ll go with bannon because bannon knows how to flatter him better. mcmaster has tried to flatter trump but he a he not good at it. it doesn t sound sincere when he does it. i think mcmaster s days are probably numbered in months at the white house. if that is the case, josh, what s that mean for americans watching and thinking, look, these are two men that greatly shape u.s. policy, that greatly influence the president, for example on are we going to send more troops into afghanistan. this is critically important. it s not clear to me that trump is listening to bannon. mcmaster has been far more hawkish toward north korea. i think mcmaster has succeeded with help from the new