and welcome back to our cnn town hall about this country s fentanyl crisis. we could not end this evening without talking to the people on the front lines of this battle against fentanyl. i m joined now by dr. ayanna jordan, associate professor of psychiatry at nyu, and lou or ten zero, a former doctor who is in recovery after becoming addicted himself after prescribing painkillers to patients. he helps others now with their recoveries, as the executive director of the clarksburg mission in west virginia. thank you both so much for being with us. you actually brought narcan with you. i did, i did. so, show, i think it s important for people to see it. i haven t actually seen it up closely. thank you for that opportunity. before i get started, i really just want to express my sincere empathy for the people that are here today. it s not easy, it s more to say, i am beyond sorry for your loss. but i am committed to doing things is a friendly, okay. my role as a phy
but you have to either pay for it, or not be covered to your insurance. and oftentimes, if i send patients to get it, some pharmacies don t even stop it, which is a problem. so, when people want to do better and be safe, then their pharmacy may or may not have it. in other states, you have to get a physicians prescription in order to write it. but that s one of the things. it really does depend on where you live. in west virginia, we hope to have over the counter narcan within the next few months. but in the meantime, our staff at the clarksburg mission have been trained to be trainers. and we have an unlimited supply of narcan. so we pass it as much narcan as we can to keep people alive. from a christian perspective, keep them alive until they meet in jesus christ. but certainly, and you had given yourself narcan, it would not her you. so, using narcan doesn t hurt anybody, even if they are not having an opioid a dose. dr. ortenzio and dr. ayana jordan, appreciate so much. i also wa