where no terrorists has ever come from that s the issue. but it is kind of ridiculous and disingenuous when the administration says they need 90 days to check the vetting process and they filed this thing six months ago and do nothing about those 90 days. it s really disingenuous and it s really transparent what s going on here. no. avery, why are you in such great disagreement here? yeah. that s not the issue here and the case has been on a rocket i actually love this case. the question is does donald trump have unbridled discretion to bar american-based grandparents as bona fide members of a family. that was the only issue the federal district court had to consider on thursday and it said, you know what, let the supreme court decide it. yesterday a three-judge federal appeals panel said that s right, these are the same judges that held the ban unconstitutional.
so sort of a mixed bag there for michael flynn. joining me now to discuss, avery freedman, a civil rights attorney and law professor in cleveland and richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney joining us from las vegas. good to see you as well. richard, you first. if you are his attorney, how do you interpret that? is that a mixed bag of kind of good news/bad news and maybe no news? if i m flynn s attorney, i m happy and telling everyone, he s got a story. you want to hear him out because you want to get immunity for him. fred, he s a three-star army general, form eer head of natiol security. many meetings with russian ambassador kislyak. you think he s got information. as his attorney you want to protect him. the problem is comey is really leading the charge with the fbi investigation and the department of justice. whether or not they ll bring criminal charges against flynn. i think they eventually will bring criminal charges, and that s why they want to get the immunity.
previously fought against civil rights legislation protecting minorities. he was also denied a judgeship in the 1980s following action wra wragzizations of race accusations of racism. avery freedman, civil rights attorney and law professor in a town i really like, cleveland, ohio. yeah. and in a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor who joins us from las vegas, which is always a very nice place. love vegas. let me start with you. sessions. you believe or do you believe he just is not qualified to be attorney general? avery, did you hear me? i was asking when you thought oh, me. let me tell you something, you had mentioned, marty, about the republican-controlled senate rejecting jeff sessions from position as a united states district judge. that was 30 years ago. and let me tell you something, it continues. he has opposed every major civil
platform. you re not answering it. all deporting people, that s what sessions is going to do. he is anti immigration. he is he is for the wall. he wants to prosecute hillary. he s spewing everything that trump said when he ran, and look, he was the first senator to support trump. this is payback for his loyalty. and there s nothing anybody can do about it really. he is going to get appointed and approved by the senate. and while i have you both before i run out of time, richard, should he prosecute hillary if he were attorney general? i think president obama should grant her a full pardon and end any chance of hillary being prosecuted for her service to this country. avery, what do you think? no prosecution, never happen. uh-huh. yeah. the former secretary of state, of course, i m talking about hillary clinton and candidate. avery friedman, richard herman, wonderful to see you. thank you. wonderful to see you, too. and a reminder, trump s white house chief of staff,
avery freedman, law professor in cleveland. good to see you. hi. a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor, joining us from las vegas. good to see you as well. hi, fred. it has been too long since the three of us have been together. let s maximize the moment. okay, so the president elect, donald trump, if he indeed goes after clinton, can he, richard, do it through his attorney general and point a special prosecute, despite the fact that jim comey said the investigation is over? well, fred, couple of things. let s just step back for a second. donald trump is a new yorker his entire life, basically a democratic his entire life. he filled the campaigns with a lot of rhetoric and a lot of scary language. but at the end of the day, as turn would into 90 minutes with president obama, now he is not