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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131123 16:54:00

yeah, yeah, it could wind up where someone is killed. hate crimes are based on targeting. these kind of knockout crimes are based on randomness. i think it is time for legislature to add a specification to include it. i think it is standard assault and battery, that s it, until the law is changed. avery, richard, thanks so much. we will see you again next hour to explain how spike lee might be connected to the troubling story of george zimmerman. that and more straight ahead in the newsroom. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131123 16:53:00

latinos between 24 and 38 are being questioned by hate crimes unit. seven attacks in recent weeks focused on jewish victims, one a 78-year-old woman. no one should do that based on skin color and nationality. we denounce that. nypd asks anyone a victim of this knockout game to come forward with information. we re going to have so much more on this scary trend tomorrow in the newsroom. first, let s bring in the legal gafs, avery freedman and richard herman, criminal defense attorney and law professor. some want to qualify these attacks as hate crimes. do they qualify, richard? yeah, they do, fred. this is ignorant, stupid, cowardly punks. this is not a game. this is a crime spree. they have to throw the book at these people. i charge top charge attempted murder every time. this is horrific behavior. avery?

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131123 17:50:00

who seems like the potential suspect, removing all this hard evidence because they re identical. avery, this is potentially really messy. well, i mean, think about this, fredricka. the defense lawyer says look it, we re going to bring brian in to show that there s a legitimate alibi, it wasn t us. it seems like a preposterous defense and i just can t understand how any jury looking at the facts here are going to think that s a reasonable alibi, just doesn t make any sense to me. i think aaron is just in a world of trouble here. okay. are we leaving it there, richard? it is not a preposterous defense, it is a very creative defense and it might just work in this case, if this jury gets hung up in the scientific explanations in the dna. you could see a couple jurors go off that direction. this is a very interesting case

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131123 17:51:00

to watch, fred. we have to follow-up on this one. i think we have to, too. it can go so many different directions. absolutely. avery, richard, good to see you gentlemen. happy thanksgiving. yes, happy thanksgiving. all right. thanks so much, guys. appreciate it. you can catch the legal guys here this time around every saturday in this hour. always tackling the most intriguing legal cases of the day, week, month, you name it. they re the ones. thanks so much. richard, avery. it is no secret, republican senator ted cruz is not a fan of the president or the president s health care plan. is he doing anything to fix the health care scenario? our chris cuomo asked him that very question. don t miss his answers next. the american dream is of a better future, a confident retirement. those dreams, there s just no way we re going to let them die.

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom 20131123 17:38:00

couple s address after george zimmerman who was accused in trayvon martin s murder and told his 240,000 twitter followers that the address that he gave was zimmerman s address. spike lee did send out another tweet telling his twitter followers that he had made a mistake and asked them to levy lane and david mclane alone. but the mclane s say they still got hate mail and death threats and eventually had to move out of their home. lee s lawyers say the case should be thrown out because the director reached a $10,000 settlement with them in march. the mclanes say that s not enough to compensate for the mental anguish, anxiety and fear they re still dealing with. cautionary tale for the twitter age. now in the hands of a florida judge. so let s bring in our legal guys. joining me, avery freedman, civil rights attorney and law professor, richard herman, criminal defense attorney and law professor. good to see both of you. hi, fred.

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