as you mentioned, tucker, that s a commandment. auto like veg. what happens in veg, stays in vegas. when you have an off the record conversation with a reporter, it is understood, as long as the parties establish beforehand, this is an off-the-record conversation o. not goodbye mentioned, talked about. it s not supposed to get out. and in this case, there were other reporters there as well. reporters from bloomberg, and the wall street journal and washington post. it can t be confirmed that grutger again, i can t confirm that and i m not going to do that here. go ahead. tucker: i personally have spoken to people who have confirmed it.