privilege, i think as we talk about what these conversations could be between pat cipollone s attorneys and the doj, that grand jury, i should say, what is covered by executive privilege? just remind us here. what conversations could potentially be covered. what we know is that pat cipollone and others have claimed executive privilege to allow them basically to avoid answering questions about conver conversations, private conversations they claim they had with donald trump leading up to and including on january 6. we know with respect to the january 6 committee that pat cipollone, although he appeared before that committee, that he used executive privilege oftentimes to avoid answering specific questions. and this is going to test, quite frankly, whether that privilege holds now that we know that there is a grand jury, a criminal investigation taking place with respect to donald trump. these conversations that pat cipollone s attorneys are having with the doj presumably des