professionals. you say that hurts the white house? i think that hurts republicans who have to be on the bal lot. look, donald trump aside, if you are a republican in a tough congressional district, or are you a republican say in colorado, for example, i think it s tough for you to stand, to keep carrying the president s water the way like this as more evidence comes out. and glen, before i let you go, your view on that issue and does the white house ultimately sends down lawyers the way clinton did? we were talking about this earlier in the show? did they send white house counsel, jay consecutive e sekulow, or do you see them they have been so deep in stonewalling trying to neglect the whole house process? yeah, i think they will stick with the witch hunt refrain and say we are not going to participate in this process because it would just breathe life into what we view as an illegitimate proceeding. but i think it was brilliant that the house voted to open it up to the preside
to push back on process because that issue is gone or on substance, because you kind or caught trump with his hand in the cookie jar in this bribery question. so the reason i think you are seeing people inside the white house come forward and testify. we ve had two white house officials come forward and affirm the bribery conspiracy is people are panicking that the evidence is one strong, but, two, the white house has no idea what they are doing in terms of playing an offensive or a defensive strategy here. and to your point and they re nervous about that. they don t know edge of where the provable facts are which is where you never want to be when you are making a defense. or, ari, they re worried about the edge. they re worried about the edge and juanita, free styling on halloween night. my thanks to each of you. up ahead, we have also new ukraine testimony we haven t gone to behind closed doors. we have reports on. donald trump s former top russia aid backing up the qu
he did last week when he said he was going to hold the g7 at the door he s very good at doing that when he feels cornered, he doesn t have, there is not much you can say except bring out the old witch hunt and a hoax. nancy pelosi asked the question, i don t know or she made a statement in today, i don t know what republicans are afraid of. well, they re afraid of the truth. they don t want to get to the facts and to quote a movie, ari, they can t handle the truth because the facts are so against them that they don t have a defense. it s not that they re not putting it out there, they don t have the message and there is no war room. the substance of it is, it s just not there. colonel jessup in a few good men. julian. there you go. let me point out again, i want to continue this notion you and juanita talked about on the free styling debate the. continue the notion as it
saying, very embarrassingly to trump, you know, under oath, no, it s not okay. that brings me, glen, to vindman, i want to bring here about the republican anxiety, republicans mindful of not getting too far ahead of the president. they can say something on monday morning and learn it s not true on monday afternoon. glen. yeah, you nope, ari, this really is a hearts and minds campaign. i think what the house is doing is tactically shrewd, they are hearing from all of these career public servants. they re dock it behind closed doors. what that gives them the opportunity is fine tune the information that they will then choose to present publicly to the american people. it i think is going to be a compelling presentation when they actually bring to light through the testimony of these patriots. i mean, this is a patriotic surge. these witnesses that we have seen over the past couple of weeks. you know, gone will be the corey
stone. there is a flag for a possible regulation of yes the gag order he is accused of violating. this time it could be different. later, my look on mueller s end game, why understanding his unfinished business will help you understand how to analyze the end of his probe, whenever that day comes. later, the actor jeffrey wright makes his debut on the beat. we will get into prison reform in the trump era. i m ari melbourne. we ll be right back.