important new piece of news. quote, vice president pence s chief of staff marc short e tells the post that rudy giuliani forwarded to pence s office letters arguinglectors sn these states that biden, in fact, won. mr. short reviewed it but was not persuaded. so rudy giuliani and associates directly conveyed to vice president pence and his staff that pence should count the fake ones, should open the forged fake elector counts and count those instead ofct the real one when it came time to tally up the electoral college results. and per today s reporting mr.
0 maddow show right starts right now. good evening chris, thanks my friend, much appreciated. thanks for joining us this hour, when the day this is been. be true. turns out it was rudy. here s the front page at cnn.com right now. giuliani led fake electors plot. here s the washington post s version of the that same front page story today. giuliani coordinated plan for trump electoral votes in states biden won. it was mr. giuliani, apparently. you know, you find a little thread of a story, you tug and you tug and you tug some more an one day you re like one more tug on the same thread and the whole sweater comes apart. today the whole sweater came apart and now we re sitting in a pile ofno yarn and you re going oh, that s what it s made of. here s how cnn put it in their story tonight. quote, trump campaign officials led by rudy giuliani oversaw efforts in december 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that trump lost, according to three sources knowledge of t