considers his potential run. his group, advancing american freedom is planning to run ads in iowa against transgender affirming policies in schools. so among the people who aren t running that you re talking to, how worried are they about what this means long-term for taking back the white house, senate, governorships, frankly some o. exhausted middle, might not know for. some of them are worried about it, some of them are embracing it. talk about the candidates, mike pence, if he s going to win the nomination, he can get evangelicals and grab some back from donald trump, you look at ron desantis in florida, and the topics he has chosen to focus on and elevate in florida, whether you re talking about education in the schools taking on walt disney, basically running himself as the quote unquote, you know, anti-woke governor, so, you know, there s a tremendous appetite among the candidates and that stems from the voters wanting that.
members of the military are saying you don t reveal details like that, it creates a security threat. so many things coming through. this is before the publicity round, effectively. this is promotional parts of the interviews which aren t running until the weekend and leaks from the book many from a spanish version that went on sale accidentally. take a listen, specifically, though, what i was talking about was the fight with his brother. i have family members and i fight with them, and not surprised that two men are having a fight. most brothers fight. i didn t understand why he someone would reveal that. but what i did say when i spoke with you guys it s his story to tell, his and meghan s story to tell. i, as a member of the media, can criticize them or offer perspective about how i feel. the other thing, it s their story to tell, but no one picks up on that when i say it s their story to tell and i m sure they
consultant driven 1990s 2,000 era get fat off of media and direct mail and not do efficient changes that are necessary to compete with the democrats. the aren t running campaigns like they were back in the day. they are absolutely aggressively and just brutally on every innovation in law on every innovation starting 501-c 3s and fake non-profits that do the work of the democrats and we are not innovating. we are not leading. our messaging is not clear and device. laura: it s steal t. we are not motivating the base. laura: by the way, msnbc we don t have to play the sound bite but suffice it to say the fact that we re so worried about you, that tells me everything i need to know, namely that you re the right person for the job. they re like, well, she could be problematic. harmeet we re going for covering this i want to be fair to both
and jonathan alter is an msnbc political analyst and presidential historian he s also the author of old coach a substack news letter, it s great to have three of you with us. molly i ll start with you it s something that i know that you are mindful of, i follow you closely on twitter i followed your writing, i want to get your reaction to the bill that passed the house is this a good first step and are we likely to see it actually get passed? i mean it is a good first step and it is scary that so few republicans in the house supported it. i m amazed that they got ten republicans, but they re a lot of people who aren t running again and there are enough less trumpy republicans. i think it shows the people who voted against it that this republican party no longer believes in democracy, right? they no longer evaluate. so a bill like this i mean there s no reason to vote against a bill that says the vice president can t throw
haley, and others. which is you see republican leaders today ready to declare. ready to say they are running in 2024. and they are almost doing that regardless of what donald trump declares. there is no longer this intimidation. but they are going to run with a race of donald trump and embrace and not reject them. and the story you hear is that i hear the call for me to run for president, i m going to stand in front of republican voters, if donald trump runs and wins i look forward to supporting his reelection. that s what you hear from mike pence and ron desantis and the kayleigh and others. if donald trump is the nominee, i will support him. you re gonna hear from mitch mcconnell and everyone else. so, there is no distancing from donald trump and mike pence candidacy. it will be in price of mike trump. we heard from some other high-profile republicans who aren t running. but they have a lot of influence. bill barr, carl rove, steve win, huge gop money guys and or