made him smile and out comes the mini pope doll? we ll show you some of that in a little bit. also, we saw just before the service at st. pat s last night. the pope blessed a friend of the show, we re talking about celebrity chef sandra lee pictured as you can see there next to her partner, governor andrew cuomo. she declared she s cancer-free. the pope gave her a blessing. he also prayed for mario cuomo, the father of the governor who died in january. sandra lee was just with us in our living room and cooking with us telling us about what she s been through. steve, there was a moment that we have right here, thanks to your own son and daughter. peter doocy was on the east face of the capitol covering the pope coming in and going out. when the pope there were thousands of people there for the arrival. there was nobody there when the pope left. so i m sure it s just a coincidence. but when that big mouth doocy
78. it s been said on and off that he could use a hip replacement, that it gives him some trouble. perhaps he s been dealing with sciatica. and number two, his security detail encountered a guy standing or walking with him, in front of him down the main aisle, and they happened to be when i was watching his exit from st. pat s, and they tossed him to the side. when they are forced to do their job, it s an awesome thing to watch. he is seated now. he s getting back into the fiat, i think. yep. it s parked right behind them. cardinal dolen is trying to direct him to the vista of people visible from where they are. everyone just keeps saying, he must be exhausted. those are the people who you were talking about, who come to get as close as they can and maybe outside, you see the tall black fences.
air, that s for sure. one of the things, i lived in new york about 15 years ago and you quickly learn that when you spot a celebrity out and about in town, you don t make a big deal about it. new yorkers will make an exception to that rule today for this pontiff. he is going to be greeted with a crush of people. it s all about crowd control in a couple hours. this is still pretty much the regular new york city crowd along fifth avenue. you got tourists shopping, you have workers going and coming back from lunch, but in a couple hours this is all going to change. we are expecting this to be very crowded. here s a lot of thing that people are expecting to see. they would love to see the pope get out of the popemobile and walk. we are at 58th street. that would be a long walk for a 20-year-old, much less a 78-year-old man who has been on a schedule of schedules the past few days. the cathedral is seven blocks that way. we don t think the pope will get out and walk from this point but mayb
for? she said i asked him to bless me. and he said, i bless you. and so it s that kind of exchange. he spent probably 15 minutes there, but it was extraordinarily moving. but, brian, i have to it ll you, i m looking at fifth avenue, i have never, ever seen it like this. there has to be people, 15 to 20 deep along this, and i can see all of the way up to about 5th street. and let me tell you, there s not a space to be had, at least from what i can see. and then you can see here on st. pat s, we have some catholic school students here, some other people here on this side, all of these people who are in fluorescent vests, those are men and women who worked on the restoration of st. patrick s cathedral. now this restoration was planned before cardinal dolan knew that pope francis was going to come to new york. but it s a very it was a very
and i think we can hear the beautiful church of st. pat s be hind us as the bells are going off. does anyone feel intimidated to talk about the church and conflicts with the church? . coming up, you ll hear more from thomas robert s panel interview on the pope s impact on the u.s. let s go to politics and a shake-up for the race in the republican nomination. a new cnn poll shows carly fiorina surging. she s gained 12 points putting her in second place and now ahead by one point of ben carson. donald trump is still leading the pack and he s down eight points. joining me now is rich galen. and howard dean, former vermont governor. good to see you both. rich, any sense of relief from the gop establishment that donald trump may be losing some steam here?