more importantly you need to hone a message that is hyper critical of donald trump and beat on it every single day until iowa. what do you make of this messaging as you talk about messaging there, right, the super pac making this antitrump ad about being too chummy with dictators. interesting they bring up putin. he s obviously in the news not just because of the war in ukraine but because of this rebellion, 24/48 hour rebellion led by the wagner mercenary group as well. do you think that resonates with voters here in the united states? you know, when i was doing the bush stuff years ago, the most compelling value that republican primary voters focused on was are you a strong and decisive leader, and i think that s what s behind this ad. it s not so much about the dynamics of vladimir putin or the dynamics of north korea, it s more about undercutting donald trump s strength as a strong leader, and i think he has such an advantage on that,
desperate to leave trump hupd. even as ron desantis faced attacks from trump, it also remains among the grass roots. we re about to test that. trump has a pretty commanding lead right now. i don t know if any rules apply. if you go back in history, if the person is known, the front runner is known and has a big lead early on, they are hard to take out. which is why there s a little bit. you see in that piece, ron desantis kind of ready for him to launch. but time will tell. i do think it s premature to judge how desantis will do. he s only done these stops where there s a lot of things that we haven t seen yet from him. so i think there has been maybe a push to set him aside. but we haven t even started yet. how does the antitrump perform in this race. there is really a two-man race.
was a way for her to use this case or these allegations to seek attention, status and even money. he asked about the income she s made as an vice columnist. he questioned why she went to social events with antitrump figures around the court appearances. he asked about her exchanges with kathy griffin. tacopina questioning why carroll did not call police about what she alleges was the assault at the time. carroll s response is i am a member of the silent generation. women like me were taught and trained to keep our chins up and to not complain. at another point tacopina asked about a conversation with george conway, a lawyer who s known to be also critical of trump trying to suggest that basically maybe conway had somehow suggested, exaggerated or even created the idea that carroll should sue trump.
near where republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is planning to have a protest this hour. also joining us, former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence, frank figliuzzi. ron, to you here, what are you seeing where you are i see a lot of people behind you, but a lot of media. yeah, a lot of media. we re in a park across the street from the courthouse over in that direction. on this side you have trump supporters, you can see the red maga hats, you can see the flags for donald trump there is a small determined band of protesters, demonstrators and a lot of media we re in a very enclosed area in this park. the police have sort of corralled people in here and they re trying to keep the sides separated. on that side is trump. if you pan over on the other side over here, past this barrier, there are some supporters of antitrump demonstrators over there you can see the signs saying things like trump jails, we believe stormy daniels, that
the winter of 2020, 2021 because it was a remarkable set of factors, but they were factors that could reoccur, and i think the legal question is essential, and i think the historical and cultural one is. we almost lost the constitution in december and january of 2021. and the fact that we didn t is quasi miraculous, and we just need to do all we can to understand and to at least increase the odds that we can pull off a couple more miracles as we go forward. all right. coming up, the most explicit antitrump pledge yet from a potential republican presidential candidate, plus, one of our next guests says ron desantis just made himself unelectable as president. did you notice that trump keeps doing all of these italian