demonstrations have turned violent. we don t want anyone to get hurt today. reporter: aside from some minor injuries, the police were mostly successful and this march came just one day after demonstrators clashed with police in portland, oregon. of course the violence in portland from antifascists and those who impose sanctions on i.c.e. sandra: the filmmaker who caught all this on camera. fort fisher, cofounder and editor and chief of news to share. to be clear, while the video we were showing was yours, you are standing in the middle of all this. what did you see? basically i started at martin luther king park which is where the actual note to marxism event was taking place. there were a number of counter demonstrators, not all of them but broadly along the left wing who were arguing and getting into small struggles.
appellees. we will talk to a man that got caught in the middle of the melee but we begin with trace gallagher with the story. reporter: good evening, sandra. as violent as this march already was you know police already confiscated dozens of banned weapons including knives, metal pipes and slingshots. this could easily have turned bloodied. the standoff itself pitted a group of pro-conservatives calling themselves anti-marxist against a much larger group of antifascists, better known as the radical leftist group, antifa. the breeze and the conservative group was outnumbered was because they are the ones that scheduled the march and then cancel date, but some of them showed up anyway including kyle harris who claims he was called a nazi. the only one that i can see hate being spread heroes of of the opposite end.
tucker: america is plagued by the specter of fascism and violence, and in an ironic twist, they call themselves call themselves antifascists, antifa. whenever conservatives want to speak on campus, antifa groups are a reliable presence and they try to stamp out free-speech with vigilante violence with which they justifies a form of self-defense. a professor at john jay college of criminal justice. he founded a antifa group. professor, thank you for coming on. thank you for having me. tucker: your position, tell me if i have this, people are defined as fascists do not have free-speech rights. my position is that communities have the right to defend themselves against groups that actively seek to eliminate members of that community. tucker: to defend themselves against violence yes. tucker: but physical violence? talking about a group that has a history tucker: are we going are we going to pretend were
supremacist side, and the other side was tee tpa. only one side was yelling blood and soil. only one side believes in an ethnic khraepbtsing to remove everybody but white men from america. yeah. and that is the problem here. it seems as though he is continue to go equate antifa with white supremacists. that is not what he should be doing. the president, while he recognizes violence on both sides, he doesn t draw the distinction between the ideology and the antifascists who are fighting that. that is the knew answer that he always seems to lose in this discussion. i was listening to chris earlier talking with maggie about trump is somebody who fights for his position and is not clear to anybody. if you come to a rally with a
twist, they call themselves antifascists, antifa. whenever conservatives want to speak on campus, antifa groups a reliable presence, and they try to stamp out speech with vigilante violence with which they justify as a form of self-defense. mike isaacson is a professor at john jay college of criminal justice. he founded an antifa group. professor, thank you for coming on. thank you for having me. tucker: your g position, tell me if i have this, people you define as fascists do not have free-speech rights. no, my position is that communities have the right to defend themselves against groups that actively seek to eliminate. members of that community. tucker: to defend themselves against violence yes. tucker: but physical violence? yes, talking about a group that has a history are we going to pretend we re suddenly in this historical group where dylann roof doesn t exist?