distinct frame that would be anti western and that for india is a no go area. if china brings in a lot of countries which look at the world through a single lens, which is an anti west lens, that makes indie and outsider in this very organisation of which it has been part of it from the very beginning. [30 of which it has been part of it from the very beginning. the very beginning. do you think ind has the very beginning. do you think lndy has fair the very beginning. do you think indy has fair concerns the very beginning. do you think indy has fair concerns about - the very beginning. do you think. indy has fair concerns about china leading the group towards an anti western, chinese led group? they would consider it that way given they would consider it that way given the they would consider it that way given the easy relationship between the two given the easy relationship between the two countries. but on the other hand the two countries. but on the other hand what the t
the global united states, but more of sharing the global power supremacy alongside other powers as well. we don t really other powers as well. we don t really have a very clear criteria which really have a very clear criteria which country we consider being brics which country we consider being brics and which country we consider being brics and which is not. we can t really brics and which is not. we can t really pass brics and which is not. we can t really pass anyjudgment on what this organisation is really for. clearly this organisation is really for. clearly being anti western alone is not enough to rally the developing world and now is a you of would be members forms, these masters of the future face an identity crisis to define notjust the negative, what they are against, but what the new truly multipolar world can be. joining me now in the studio to discuss the brics alliance and the importance of it, is cindy yu, host of the spectator s chinese whispers podcast, live
across the board, we expect tilly mac had excellent relations. when i worked with erdogan in 2018 we had more difficulties, possibly over the russian missiles, the differences. these were resolvable problems, but they made things worse. president erdogan, and his general anti western demeanour, was very irritating in washington and brussels. this will continue. what brussels. this will continue. what about the position brussels. this will continue. what about the position in brussels. this will continue. what about the position in nato? i brussels. this will continue. what about the position in nato? bringing the second biggest army, but standing on the way of sweden s joining. to think that is something that will continue? will erdogan see this as an endorsement in that position and continue along the
being pro western. but the erdogan of the last seven years has become anti-western, increasingly anti-libertarian. he s shut down western media. he s taken a tough line on the kurds, all the areas where he had been more progressive earlier. there s a story about power corrupting here. it s not that they always disliked erdogan, but at this point most people think two decades is enough. one area where he s ruffling feathers is at nato. we saw tsweden being blocked by turkey because of the kurdish issue. tell us about the impact of this