now. if there s a mechanical problem they have to figure out what is it, fix it and make sure it never happens again. renee, thanks very much. we re joined by andy pastor who has been some serious dig on this story. in your investigation, the most recent reports you ve suggested, andy, that international investigators they are going to have to come up with some major revisions in how they operate as a result of what we re learning now. i think that s true, wolf. what we re looking at four weeks into this event, into this investigation, unfortunately, the probe looks very fragmented, disjointed and really without a clear sense of direction. your viewers may be familiar with a phrase that there s a black swan, an event that s supposed to happen so rarely, so infrequently that it s virtually impossible and unfortunately despite all of the pain and the effort and the valiant search,
commercial airliners because they are much more complex than they used to be and in the old days and currently the country that has control, whether it s because the aircraft crashed in that country or because it s an international waters and a flight carrier of that country, that country basically has control. but in the future, these experts say it will be a much more coordinated, much more international effort from the beginning, because people are beginning to realize that that s what s necessary. unfortunately, this probe will be looked at as not a very good example of that, former chairman of the ntsb has call it a textbook case of how not to conduct such an investigation. i ve been suggesting now for a few days some sort of international commission of inquiry or presidential commission at a minimum needed to learn lessons site doesn t happen again. andy pastor of the wall street journal, thanks very much for your reporting. appreciate you joining us. a reminder crossfire
eagerness to come out and say we know the plane is down, here s where we think it is and then a day later, a few days later there was this recalibration to say well maybe that s not exactly what the data shows us. i think that s an unfortunately state of events. we have a statement from the ntsb, a spokesperson saying this and i ll put it up on the screen, andy. while the wall street journal may want to suggest there are issues with information sharing there aren t. everyone who is working this event is doing so as part of a large multinational team. they are working as hard as they can. at this point they are sharing relevant information but it s obvious that that was not the case before. and if you talk to folks who have been watching this really closely, you really get a sense that, from the very beginning of this investigation, because it
ron, just very briefly, you re an experienced pilot. that altitude change, if in fact the plane did go up above 40,000 feet, is that something that an auto pilot would do? or that has to be manually done? that has to be manually done. it has to be manually done either by somebody having their hands on the controls or somebody having their hand on the auto pilot and changing the altitude. because otherwise, if the airplane is on auto pilot it s going to stay at the altitude and stay at the heading thought was given. so to do erratic changes like that, somebody was controlling that airplane and flying it outside the envelope of not knowing what the correct way to fly the airplane was. at the break i d like you all to just stick around, andy pastor as well. andy who just broke the story with the wall street journal that the focus is sharpening in on the idea of sabotage, based on the people he is talking to
last few minutes, all your sources are telling you the plane was manually had to have been manually turned and that perhaps based on what the succession of communications devices being turned off, that likely two people had to have somehow been involved. someone to remain in the cockpit, someone to go below and turn off one of the communication devices. certainly more than one person. it s very unclear who they are, where they were headed, what their purposes were. it s very unclear where the plane is currently. there s only one incontrovertible fact in all of this speculation. if aircraft went into the water there has to be some debris somewhere. we may not be looking in the right place. fit went into the water something floats from the overhead bin, from the galley, life rafts, life preservers, seat cushions. it is impossible not to find debris if this 250-ton aircraft crashed into the water no matter what trajectory it took to get there. andy, are you hearing from