yes, and i ve been involved in those discussions and some of those meetings where foreign leaders were told. it can be a long process, but it has to be very carefully thought through from all of the different angles. and in this case, the information we are told came from a foreign government. at a minimum, that government should be consulted because it s their information. right. they gave it to us in trust, and we appear to have vitted violated that trust. amy, want to play you the legendary nixon-frost interview.
has to be very carefully thought through from all of the different angles. and in this case, the information we are told came from a foreign government. at a minimum, that government should be consulted because it s their information. right. they gave it to us in trust, and we appear to have vitted th violated that trust. amy, want to play you the legendary nixon-frost interview. nixon s position even after he had resigned and was then subsequently pardoned was that he was not guilty of obstruction because his motive wasn t to cover up the crime. it was to contain the political damage. take a listen. i didn t believe that we were covering any criminal activities. i didn t believe that john mitchell was involved. i didn t believe that, for that matter, anybody else was. i was trying to contain it politically, and that s a very different motive from the motive of attempting to cover up
criminal activities of an individual. john mitchell, the attorney general. does the motive here and i can imagine a defense of the president if in fact what happened in the comey memo actually did happen, that he was essentially trying to be loyal to general flynn or felt bad for him or whatever, the motive wasn t a cover-up of some crime, does the motive matter here? that may be the motive. but, no, i don t think the motive does matter. the problem is that it s not appropriate for the president to talk to the fbi director about any criminal investigation, let alone one that involves his campaign and his close associates. all right. jeffrey smith and amy jeffress, thank you both for your time. don t go anywhere. when we return, more details from our nbc reporter and congressman joaquin castro joining us, next.