director of american rising pact. and a former biden campaign surrogate. we ll dig into the politics of this issue. i ll start with you. as you look at this, the defund the police movement was something that you saw some democrats trying to back away from while others now still leaning into it. yeah, great to be with you. that s exactly turning into a relish yu for democrats heading into the mid-terms. we ve seen at america rising across the board that crime and public safety is becoming a top issue there with the economy for a wide swath of voters. also note one of the democrats who raised the flag on this after 2020, abigail spang berger, she said aligning ourselves with defund the police is costing us at the polls. her district has gone from lean