mar-a-lago after the presidency, but crucially, not just that the obstruction of justice angle we ve known that has been going on what the washington post says, is that the justice department is gathering and has gathered fresh evidence pointing to possible obstruction by donald trump himself in this investigation, one of the details that they services that people have been telling them or people have provided evidence to show that trump looked through contents of some of the boxes in his home, potentially to keep things in his possession. i mean , that s significant in that there are so many stories that trump may have had a folder on his nightstand there. there were documents in a box that moved out of a storage room into the office, the bridal suite at mar-a-lago. that s now his office. but this is the justice department trying to put things together. nail it down with the grand jury. it does sound like that part of the investigation is proceeding. alright katelyn polantz. thank you
well wishes during his time in the hospital, and he was able to go around in his pope mobile amongst some 60,000 people gathered in the square, according to the vatican, waving and giving them a thumbs up begins a very busy week for the pope, in addition to thursday on friday, is expected to be in front of rome s colosseum in the evening for the way of the cross on saturday evening and easter vigil and on sunday easter sunday. mass delia gallagher, rome all right, and we have a winner and the women s tournament in the n c. double a march madness tournament. ls you just took down iowa, 102 to 85 to claim the program s first ever women s basketball title. that 102 points is the most in women s title game. history just unbelievable. it s an unfortunate end for iowa superstar katelyn polantz. she captured headlines all tournament long. with her unbelievable three point shooting. congrats to both teams , but l s u, defeating iowa there to claim the title.
reporter katelyn polantz joins us now with more so katelyn polantz pence does not have to answer questions about his own actions on january 6th when he was presiding over the certification. but what does he have to testify for the special counsel here? well what is so contested here in this court case was whether or not mike pence would have to share those one on one phone calls that he had with donald trump. no one else on the call, but those two men leading up to january 6th and our sources are telling us that the judge s order in this case on monday is that pence must testify about those things , partly because the judge found that what mike pence will have to discuss to the grand jury in this criminal investigator. nation in dc in federal court are moments where donald trump may have been acting corruptly or even potentially illegally, so that s what mike pence is going to have to talk about. even if there are certain things he might be able to decline to
said her father called him. the p word. pence in his book previously wrote that wimp was the word that donald trump used there that he would be remembered as a wimp. but of course, he s never said that under oath and we do have to wait and see how pence is going to respond to this court decision. he is making public appearances this week, including in iowa and on cnn. alright katelyn polantz with the latest reporting there thanks so much for that, and joining us now to talk about all of it is cnn political commentator bakari sellers, former democratic south carolina state representative and sarah long well executive director for the republican accountability project, and publisher of the bulwark. good morning to both of you. thanks for being with us this morning, sarah, let s start with you. we now know that pence will be required to testify. this news is coming. as we noted, while he s in iowa, not officially announced as a 2024 candidate just yet, but clearly his guys are looking are
trump. in the days leading up to january. 6th. that is, according to sources familiar with the recent court ruling that remains under seal. cnn s katelyn polantz joins us now she s part of the team that helped break the story. just a couple of hours ago. katelyn polantz through the details of this new order. well, we re still getting some details because this order is under seal , as all of these have been in recent weeks, but this is something that puts wind in the sails of the special counsel investigation. jack smith has been seeking vice president, former vice president mike pence s testimony sent him a subpoena calling him in before the grand jury. they went to court to try and fight over whether he was going to have to go whether he was going to have to answer questions and ultimately judged jeb boasberg of the d. c district court. he said. yes, pen. it s must testify. pence is going to have to testify specifically about conversations he had with donald trump. and we re hearing f