up important records, documents, and write on them. even though aides told him not to. and i had one source point out to me that he was always showing off some of these presidential records including those love letters with kim jong un. essentially another example here of how there was no real system in place. nobody actually watching what was going on here. so again they were not surprised to see that. laura? kyle, cheney, christian holmes, thank you so much. jessica, i ll see you here after the break. it s astonishing to think about. it s one thing to talk about alphabet city and alphabet soup. but to think about all of this being mixed together as if each thing does not mean something in terms of the classification is truly stunning. we are just getting started as we examine the impact of this affidavit. we ll go through the paperwork, with the fbi, and the doj veterans. we ll examine the legal exposure for donald trump who one ally says, really needs a competent defense attorn
about what it tells us and the overall picture that it now creates and most importantly what it means. let s go to our three top reporters, justice correspondent jessica schneider, kristin holmes and kyle cheney. i m so glad to see you all here. we ve been waiting for this information. although it s redacted, there is a lot there. kyle, let me begin with you here, because now we know the tally of classified info just in those january boxes, right? 184 classified documents, 67 confidential, 92 secret, 25 top secret and what s more, some of these docs had an alphabet soup of markings like hcs and si and orcon. what was so alarming to the investigators about this? well, that alphabet soup you just described really gave us the best sense of why the justice department took this as seriously as they did. hcs, that s human source
former trump staffers, both from the white house and from mar-a-lago who said they were not at all surprised to hear this, because of trump s poor record keeping. that he was known to walk around the white house or mar-a-lago, pick up boxes, go through rifle through, move stuff from one box to another without any sort of reasoning behind it. he also was known to pick up important records and documents and write on them, even though aides told him not to. and i had one source point out to me that he was always showing off some of these presidential records, including those love letters with kim jong-un. essentially another example here of how there was no real system in place. nobody actually watching what was going on here. so, again, they were not surprised to see that. laura. kyle cheney, kristen holmes, thank you so much. jessica, i ll see you after the break. it s just astonishing to think about. it s one thing to talk about alphabet city and alphabet soup, but to think about a
attorney and senior investigator for the generations committee and phil mudd, a former cia counterterrorism official, nice to have you here. gentlemen, you heard just go talk about just the alphabet soup and the idea of this being stuffed in different places like almost a junk drawer, phil, when you hear about the classifications on the markings, summit levels that are not supposed to even go to allies let alone just be put with a post-it note somewhere in a box somewhere down in florida, what is your reaction? there are couple of things, chaos and the chaos in of administration that did not want to accept the election laws. when i saw the stories about the number of boxes, 15 boxes, 14 of them had classified documents, my take away was the president did not want to accept the election results obviously, in the final days of his presidency, someone went around the white house made the over office said everything from, pronouncing it to
as well as it red lights to when trump is supposed to respond to the special master request that he s made. we ll come back to that and give you a chance to get through it in a really good way. for a deeper dive, i want to bring in bradley moss, a national security lawyer, john wood, former u.s. attorney and senior investigator for the january 6th committee, and phil mudd, former cia counterterrorism official. nice to have you here, gentlemen. you just heard jessica talk about just that alphabet soup and the idea of this being stuffed in different places like it s almost like a junk drawer. i mean, phil, when you hear about the classifications, the markings, some at these levels that are not even supposed to go to our allies, let alone just put with a post-it note in florida, what is your reaction? there s a couple things, mostly chaos and the chaos of an administration that didn t want to accept the election loss.