decide that we truly are, quote unquote, pro life and start protecting life, all lives, whether they re democratic lives, independent lives, republican lives, they should not be a partisan issue because the last time i checked, my practice as a criminal defense attorney, bullets typically don t have a party assigned to them, so we need to start protecting lives and stop playing political games. i am just over it. i really need voters to be over it and start making sure that they hold their elected officials accountable. and if they don t have the courage to save lives that we really need to send them home. we re learning that the president just left church asks for his reaction, saying he has not been briefed. or bring anything to you as we get a. we do get a tweet from texas attorney general ken paxton. i will read that to you. pray for allen, texas, pray for these families and for a lot
amongst most people, understandably, that there is a magic database where atf can take that serial number on the gun, punch in and, lo and behold, come up immediately with whose gun is. it just does not work that way. you know why? there is no such that a base. we don t require all of our can purchases to be entered into a central government database. frank and lisa, you re staying with me. i want to bring into our conversation, jim kavanaugh, a retired atf officer and hostage negotiator, also msnbc terrace analysts. jim, let s look frank, you and i have that year to many times before watching a scene like this one unfold. the fact that it is still an active scene, what does that tell you? well, they don t have a handle on everything that is going on there quite yet. it looks like they got the forces there. i used to be the assistant special agent in charge of the dallas division. in fact, i lived just a few miles from allen, texas. i am familiar with the small police force and all
about the resources that will be invested into these communities, and no one really spends the time following up on what happens a lot of times to those that were involved. we know that we have eight maxwell frost. we know that this was someone who found their activism sea legs, so to speak. there are always those folks, but then there are the other people that truly never, ever recover. honestly, i don t know what recovery looks like under these types of circumstances anyway. but we have seen that there are people that have been involved with some of these more traumatic situations that really have been left with wounds that never healed. for those of you that are just joining us, we are following an active shooting situation at a texas mall, allen premium mall in allen, texas, just north of dallas. we have new images coming in of the crowd that is gathering. we re going to show them to you momentarily.