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CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper June 4, 2024 20:12:00

in a combat zone. all we could do is load folks and get them to a major medical center and allen pd and fire did an excellent job. just going to an outlet mall being like like in a combat zone is unfortunately what is now like the new normal in the united states or has been for several years but seems to be getting worse. i mean, normally we in the news media, we don t we don t show or don t necessarily even describe how these how these firearms can destroy a human body, and obviously we want to be respectful to the families. do you think if more americans saw what you saw that people might feel differently about laws that might begin to try to stop this madness? i would not be an advocate of doing or showing what i saw.

MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez June 4, 2024 22:09:00

what a from garland is that this ain t over it. lisa, frank, or both staying with me. i want to go back to our breaking news out of texas. police are on the scene of an active shooter at a mile north of dallas. reports have been coming in since 5:30, right before we came on air. while we don t know the extent of what is going on, we are told that the atf is investigating an active shooter at the allen prime outlets, just north of dallas. what you are watching, this is a live feed from the scene. we ve seen in the past few minutes people walking out with their hands up, presumably to indicate to authorities outside that they are not a target. frank, i want to bring you back in here. you and i have sat here many times with as little information as we have now and watched a scene like this unfold to the first questions that run through your mind as an intelligence officer. first, we all know this, it s early, and we don t know all the facts. i will tell you a few things,

MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez June 4, 2024 22:22:00

we are following an active shooter situation at the allan premium outlets in allen, texas. frank, when you talk about what the intel community is doing now, the efforts to assess motive, what resources are they drawing upon? so all of this flows from the eyes and ears on the ground right now. what do i mean by the? if there is anything positive about this whole environment is that there are multiple witnesses to this, and there are multiple security cameras. immediately, the police and fbi will start processing the intel coming from interviews. the mastication team set up, usually in agent and detective partner together. the police say, what did you see? what did he look like? what did the shooter look like? what did happen? what was the cause? and then pulling the security camera from the mall, the stores, close by to where this happened. and you start to develop an identification of if this person is still on the loose, who are we looking for? is there a car?

MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez June 4, 2024 22:14:00

the fbi has a lot of this stuff to. the state police do to, other police agencies do to. you overlap and help each other, you increase each other s abilities in every area of expertise when you have a lot of investigators on hand that can follow all the leads, secure buildings, serve search warrants, do all kinds of things. atf is there. no doubt that fbi is there. allen pd is there. and i am sure that plain old pd, which is a larger pd next to allen. and texas state troopers, dps, texas rangers all have a canopy of officers responding. you need them all because you don t know what the situation is right now. i will ask frank to come back and talk about what the correlation between those agencies look like. before i do, jim, one of the other things we know based on this footage is that there were people inside the mall walking out with their hands up.

MSNBC American Voices With Alicia Menendez June 4, 2024 22:20:00

your mind. you ve got to save lives. that is what your main mission is. if you can put some information out that will help you stop the killer, catch the killer, you put that out immediately. the public information officers were gathered to. they ll be near the commanders, they can put that out to the media quickly, get it out. we haven t seen anything from allen pd. we might soon to see where the shooter is or where they think he is? they gave us a description of him, said he was loose, armed and dangerous, could be something like that. so, that is what they are doing the. is what commanders are doing, what we re talking, that is what they are doing on scene right now, from all of the police forces. that is what they re doing, assessing. the swath will get there and i don t know if allen pd as a swath. they are a small pd. they may have a swath. but plano pd as a swat team. they will probably be very

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