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those would be a little more difficult to actually study what they are, because it is a theory. it has not been put into place. you cannot say whether it is doing better or worse. i am more than happy to get into that discussion. i just want to make sure we are preparing current comparing current systems that are in use. it is a reality that you cannot necessarily do the same empirical analysis supervisor avalos: i understand. i hope there is a use of this system elsewhere. it could be on another continent, a place called utopia, maybe. perhaps not a real place. more than happy to do whatever the commission wishes. chairperson campos: if i may, commissioners, whether it is at a meeting today or subsequent to the meeting, if you want to have a follow-up discussion with mr. fried, i want to make sure he is able to follow up on the specific issues or concerns that you may have. if there is something specifically that you think it is important that he looked at, if you can
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chairperson campos: good afternoon and welcome to the february 24, 2012 meeting. my name is david campos. i am the chair of the commission. we are joined today by the commission vice chair, commissioner john avalos, as well as commissioner pimentel. our clerk is linda wong. i want to thank staff which is helping to cover this meeting. could you please call item number two? approval of lafco minutes from january, 2012. chairperson campos: if there is any member of the public that would like to speak on item 2 below? seeing none, public comment is closed. this is an action item. supervisor avalos: motion to approve. commissioner pimentel: second. chairperson campos: without objection. item 3, community toys aggregation activities report a status update on the clean power program, status update on proceeding at the california public utilities commission, and status update on state legislation. chairperson campos: we will now hear from michael campbell of the public utiliti
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