distinctions. voters are beginning to tune in more. i think in places like iowa, new hampshire. they re actually at an elevated level of interest with the voters. i think we are close to that time where, drawing a distinction between you and the other candidates is very important. you know, alex talked rule of thumb in politics. particularly in debates if you are not on offense, you are losing. and i think many of these candidates, you are starting to see that rule of thumb in campaign start to emerge. go ahead. just going to say, anderson, that, four years ago all most to the say, we were in ames iowa, iowa draw poll. there was firing back and forth. not sure this is any different. just that we didn t have the straw approximately to kind of measure it. interesting, rich, governor kasich we heard from in the last segment. he manages to acknowledge the energy of donald trump s followers without giving him too much credit or trump too much credit still able to deliver his
all mr. or ms. basketball, at home. they re all competing. then he ran for governor. been a very, successful governor. even though there were a lot of people that disagreed with him. a talented politician. that s what you have got to be. people don t look to say i am a politician. on the point too, rich, anderson. it might be good enough to got you to 12%. let me make you one guarantee if donald trump and john kasich or john kasich and jeb bush are tied at 22%, 24%. we re in the dep tth th of wint january, you are going to see kasich make sharp distin tkttions between him and candidates. that changes very quickly. alex, if you are in jeb bush s camp. how panished a isicked are you? not at all. right now, donald trump on top of ted cruz and ben carson, splitting the anti-establishment vote. and, so, and meanwhile you are getting time to establish your
think again. now republicans are going to have to thing if he is not going to hurt himself. might they have to start spending money on tv ad against him. amazing how he is defying laws of political gravity and getting every pundit just about wrong. everybody has been saying all along. well now it is going to start. now it is going to start. he has gone too far. the polls say no. approximatelies say no. one rule in this campaign. throw out all the old rules. john, thanks. joining us, three republican political pros, alex castiallnos, newrepublican.org and purple strategies a. man day carpenter, ted cruz s former communications director, and jeffrey lord political director in the reagan white house with american spectator and cnn political commentator. amanda, numbers for trump in iowa, voters are socially conservative, more influenced by county politics neither of which is trump s calling card. yet he is doing great? anderson, i think the biggest takeaway from the poll, you
might they have to start spending money on tv ad against him. amazing how he is defying laws of political gravity and getting every pundit just about wrong. everybody has been saying all along. well now it is going to start. now it is going to start. he has gone too far. the polls say no. approximatelies say no. one rule in this campaign. throw out all the old rules. john, thanks. joining us, three republican political pros, alex castiallnos, newrepublican.org and purple strategies a. man day carpenter, ted cruz s former communications director, and jeffrey lord political director in the reagan white house with american spectator and cnn political commentator. amanda, numbers for trump in iowa, voters are socially conservative, more influenced by county politics neither of which is trump s calling card. yet he is doing great? anderson, i think the biggest takeaway from the poll, you have
it s going to affect the rest of the field. jeffrey? anderson, you mention ground game in iowa. that s correct. and i would point out that he has running his campaign in iowa, chuck laughtner responsible for santorum s victory. he has a serious iowa professional there. i am sure that, organization is at the top of his list. jeffrey, good to have you on. amanda carpenter. alex. coming up what the new numbers say about hillary clinton. her leading challenger, bernie sanders, and possible challenger, joe biden. dana bash talks with ohio governor john kasich. if you have moderate to severe