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CNN At This Hour With Berman and Bolduan December 23, 2015 16:43:00

of ieds and barriers for the follow-on forces of the iraqi military to come in there, retake it. it will happen, and it will happen over time. but the real message is to the citizens of ramadi. can they have confidence in the iraqi military that it will be held, that the military won t go anywhere, and that they can then begin to achieve some degree of normalcy which they clearly have not with an occupation force of isis over the course of the last six months. absolutely not. and i think there is a very huge lingering question of okay, say they take it. what s next? i mean, you say that isis made the decision to give up space for time. say the iraqi forces, they do, yes, retake the city. but what then? well, the iraqi forces have to be able to reassert two things, kate. number one, they have to reassert their ability to achieve governance. i mean, right now iraq is an occupied nation that has

CNN New Day April 23, 2014 11:46:00

constraints of the airline industry? you know, i think it is to some extent. even with the black boxes that we have now they started out with just a certain bit of finite data, altitude, heading, airspeed, and that sort of information initially when they first put black boxes on the airplanes. i think that what is practical is basic heading information, some location data information. the idea that all 10,000 points are there s actually 82 tracking points, but as many as 10,000 data points could be transmitted on a realtime basis is impractical at this point, i think. but there s a lot of information that with very little effort can be done to track the aircrafts so we can t just lose an airplane like we have right now. that would be good. david soucie, thank you very much. kate? thanks, chris. coming up next on new day, a teen s unbelievable tale of survival has so many people wondering how he made it across the pacific ocean traveling

CNN New Day April 23, 2014 10:11:00

where the currents work and where it could head. chad, thanks very much. we also have breaking news the search for bodieses in that south korean ferry disaster. we are now learning that divers found no air pockets on the ship s third and fourth decks. they had been hoping they would find those air pockets nape had held out hope that with the air pockets they could find some additional survivors. but the confirmed death toll now rising once again. it s at 150, with 152 people still unaccounted for this morning. there s also new information about what was happening on board when the ferry first ran into trouble. cnn s nic robertson is live in jindo, south korea, with the latest. nic? kate, we have these new details from the rescue effort. we know now, we ve been told that a new main rescue ship than brought into place. it is nine times larger than the main rescue vessel in place.

CNN New Day April 23, 2014 11:03:00

up but high time they got them going. good news. spider, who has these additional assets? will the malaysian authorities be turning to countries be looking to the u.s. navy maybe? are they going to look to private companies who has this stuff? kate, lit be a combination. the malaysians don t have the capacity themselves to do this so they will go to the contributing nations, those who have been involved to date. clearly the united states has got some tremendous capabilities in the military and available commercially. and at some point we have to be very frank. there s a huge cost element to this. if they can latch on to a piece of intelligence, this object of interest, if this leads to something then there needs to be a resulting surge in term of collection capabilities. if not, then the inevitable will be how much is this going to cost, how long is it going to take, expectations are going to have to be decreased in terms of the immediacy of an answer. but other nations will have t

CNN New Day April 23, 2014 11:07:00

at this point. i don t think that it s ever too late to be more trans important in an investigation that involves so many people and there s so much distrust now between the families and how this investigation is going. mary, it s always great to have you. thank you. spider, thank you. it s great to see you as well. chris? kate, we re also following breaking news in that devastating ferry accident off the coast of south korea. and it is the last thing families want to hear. divers are saying this morning there are no air pockets on the third and fourth decks of that submerged ship. all but eliminating any hope of finding anyone, at least finding them alive. 150 bodies have been brought to the surface with 152 still unaccounted for. cnn s nic robertson is live in jindo, south korea. this is not a shock, nic, but it is just so, so sad. reporter: very disappointing for the families. the real hope had been that the third and fourth levels were the place where s the students were, with

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