where you could listen to the air traffic control tapes. this is not the cockpit voice tape on the recorder. that s an spirentirely differen matter. i m sure, steve, you heard hishammuddin saying i convinced them to release the transcript. you told the producer, i ve got the quote here, there s this endless pattern from the malaysians that damages the credibility of the investigation. do you believe that this endless pattern has created damage that is is irrepairable? well, i would say it s irreparable in terms of the suffering of these families which we have seen so graphically. and because that s you can t recover that. is it it s probably not irreparable in terms of ultimately finding out the cause of this accident. but the lack of transparency with these families and the
that the news was that families were denied their request to hear the recordings from the cockpit to the air traffic control. they really wanted to hear those voices for themselves. they were denied that request. i want you to answer if that is standard operating procedure and investigation. and also i know that you feel that oftentimes the families can aid in recognizing voices on those recordings. that s right. it s not standard operating procedure. and, in fact, the united states, air traffic control tapes and correspondents are considered public record. they re released right away. in fact, you can apply the freedom of information act and get them. it s the cockpit voice recording that the actual voices are protect protected. and it takes a court order to use those in court. but the transcript on the cdr only is released. and yes, it s very important for people to listen. there are experts that make their living by interpreting what s those on tapes. many times, the public can he
data that you usually use to find an aircraft. sure. it s remarkable that they have been able to use it to come up with the points they have. put both your inspector had on and your attorney hat on. you ve been calling for that raw inmarsat data to be released so that the scientific community at large can aid in the calculation of it. that s the investigator aspect. now let s talk about the attorney part. will that compromise the investigation going forward and is it worth it to do that? oh, i don t think so. oh, it is worth it to do it. many things at least a couple things that the malaysian officials had said would never be released, for example the transcript of the air traffic control tapes. just last week they told the families it was sealed, and then it was released. same thing now on the radar and satellite data. i think even crowd sources might help. at this point, they need every
help design the inmarsat, saying there s a lot of information we could use, i m begging for it. do you agree with that, david? absolutely. the more i think about it, there s some pieces missing here that we need to have. we need to know the last known position as best we can find out what that is, and then we need to know how far could the plane have possibly gone from that position on. i think inmarsat s got that stuff, it s frustrating not to have it. were you surprised to hear the malaysian acting transportation administrator to say there may be survivors after the prime minister said all lives were lost? that just seems? i was stunned by that. i was too, and it s so in congress. one entity says one thing, the other says another, it s been a hallmark of this investigation, you know, last week announcing that the air traffic control tapes and the inmarsat data were secret and never be released.
position as best we can find out what that is, and then we need to know how far could the plane have possibly gone from that position on. i think inmarsat s got that stuff, it s frustrating not to have it. mary, were you surprised to hear the acting malaysian transportation administrator say there may be survivors after the prime minister said all lives were lost. that just seems i was stunned by that. i was too, and it s so in congress. one entity says one thing, the other says another, it s been a hallmark of this investigation, you know, last week announcing that the air traffic control tapes and the inmarsat data were secret and never be released. and then they dribble out information, announcing everyone had perished in the ocean. and then, turning around and it s like they re reacting but they don t know what they re reacting to. at this point it has so compromised their credibility that they really ought to be looking to forge a very close bond with australia and let the