nuclear weapon that s on mizeed for electromagnetic pulse exploding over the united states could take down our electric system not for weeks or months but for over a year. former cia director warned. martha: how long could you survive at a fortitude ranch if this unforeseeable horrible incident were to happen? we produce our own food so we can last forever. as admiral woolsey warned, if there is this kind of attack and the electric system goes down, there will be societal collapse there won t be law and order and mass starvation. he estimated up to 90% of the u.s. population could potentially pear irish in a disaster like that. and the worst threat we face is pandemics. we are due for a natural pandemics and bioengineered viral pandemics that could cause a catastrophe. martha: this has been uplifting. i want to thank you. thank you for being here and you are giving everybody an option. dr. drew miller, thank you very much. good to see you tonight. wow. what a show. that is our st
protected. we re not that far from that where government officials. wealthy people can go to survival condo if you have millions of dollars. most of us will be on our own with the loss of law and order from pandemic or loss of the electrical system. police won t be able to protect you in your neighborhoods. there is going to be gangs and people out there looking for food. so you have to be able to protect yourself. martha: it s horrible to imagine. but these are growing how many fortitude ranches are there around the country. i know you don t say exactly where they are. they are mostly in the middle of nowhere, right? we are located in remote areas. we are in west virginia west of d.c. and also in colorado. raising funds now to expand across the u.s. martha: how would you characterize interest in them? has it exploded over recent years? it s been high and it keeps getting higher. the north korean threat is bad, for example. former cia director james woolsey warned last year
it s a near-ocean blast. if it s an atmospheric blast like admiral woolsey said or i m sorry, ambassador woolsey said, it could cause emp problems. but none of that is there s no intelligence that they can do that, they can launch it in the middle of the ocean. but the other thing you have to concern yourself with is north korea s not any signatory to any non-proliferation agreement. so if they were to do something like this, they re literally not violating any rules of law or laws of land warfare. it would be a test. it would all depend on what the results of that action would be, whether it killed people or caused a great deal of disruption and what our reaction might be to just provocation. but either way, don t you think it would be catastrophic? yes. this represents a very dangerous escalation in a very volatile area. think back as to what actually did happen back in 1954. the united states detonated the bravo test, 1,000 times more
on its h-bomb threat? joining me is michio kaku, theoretical fizz zit and best-selling author. also generalmark hertling and ambassador james woolsey, former director of the central intelligence agency. president trump doubled down on his rant against north korea at his rally in alabama. take a look at this. now he s talking about a massive weapon exploding over the ocean. pacific ocean. which causes tremendous, tremendous calamity. where that plume goes, so goes cancer. so goes tremendous problems. and i want to tell you something, and i m sure he s listening because he watches every word. maybe something gets worked, and maybe it doesn t. but i can tell you one thing. you are protected. okay? you are protected. nobody s going to mess with our