as well as others on the cnn team, of what mueller is actually looking at. so russia collusion, obstruction of justice, as evan just said, with particular interest with michael flynn and paul manafort. phil, in your vast experience with all this, you always hear investigators often follow the money, that that s how they get to the bottom of something. i agree with you. i can t understand why we re having this investigation. this isn t peripheral or an add-on investigation. you have questions that we don t know the answers to on the outside of this. for example, we re talking about one meeting. i have to believe there were other meetings with individuals arranged by russia, as this meeting with don junior was arranged by russia. why would somebody accept that meeting? one of the answers would be, that person who accepted the meeting, the trumperson, had a previous financial arrangement with the russian who arranged the meeting.