mueller team certainly, i think, don, was aware that some of this was happening because rudy giuliani can t help himself and has certainly been talking to journalists and had made it clear that he was getting information from the manafort team. so they knew this, then? if they were watching the news, they knew it? i do believe they would have known this. by the way, in some of the other plea agreements that they ve had, they have explicitly put gag orders into these documents. in this case they did not do that. so it seems to me at least that the mueller team was aware of this. i think what might have upset them, however, was that giuliani has been going on television, has been going in the media saying that manafort was not giving up anything on the president, that he was essentially not cooperating fully. and so that, i think, might have upset the special counsel robert mueller. evan, i want to talk to you about your new reporting tonight about a blowup between the president s
updated on developments with the special counsel. evan perez here to break it all down for us. evan, wow, this is a lot. so good evening to you. how unusual is it that a witness cooperating with the special counsel investigation be allowed to go back, talk to the lawyers of a key player, in this case the president? is that basically like having an inside track on the investigation? something s wrong here. well, it kind of is. but i think in this case, the mueller team certainly, i think, don, was aware that some of this was happening because rudy giuliani can t help himself and has certainly been talking to journalists and had made it clear that he was getting information from the manafort team. so they knew this, then? if they were watching the news, they knew it? i do believe they would have known this. by the way, in some of the other plea agreements that they ve had, they have explicitly put gag orders into these documents. in this case they did not do that. so it seems to me
hunt, which is not true no matter how many times he says it. the numbers prove it. three people have been sentenced to prison. six have pleaded guilty. 35 people and entities have been charged with a total of 191 crimes. but it s not surprising the president is on that rant again tonight, or ever. in the wake of a report in the guardian today that former trump campaign chairman paul manafort had secretly met several times with julian assange inside ecuador s embassy in london, including around the time he took the top spot with the campaign. manafort has strongly denied ever meeting with assange, calling the report, quote, totally false and deliberately libellous. and we ll have a lot more on that in a moment to tell you about. but it comes after special counsel robert mueller accused manafort of repeatedly lying to
on something, phil, about this guardian report that paul manafort met with wikileaks founder julian assange multiple times during the 2016 campaign. manafort strongly is denying that. if this is true, okay? if it s true, how big of a deal is that? i think it s huge. look, i m suspicious of this. if manafort is lying, he s looking at the special counsel, knowing the special counsel has information like what is manafort s travel schedule like? did we ever talk to the british? that is, did u.s. authorities talk to the british and ask them about whether anybody named manafort ever walked into the uk at that time? did other people who are interviewed talk about manafort travel or a series of visits to the uk to talk about assange? i m suspicious of the report. but, don, if it s true, i mentioned earlier we re half a step away from determining that somebody involved with the campaign was getting information from wikileaks. if it s true, you d have to
to prison. six have pleaded guilty. 35 people and entities have been charged with a total of 191 crimes. but it s not surprising the president is on that rant again tonight, or ever. in the wake of a report in the guardian today that former trump campaign chairman paul manafort had secretly met several times with julian assange inside ecuador s embassy in london, including around the time he took the top spot with the campaign. manafort has strongly denied ever meeting with assange, calling the report, quote, totally false and deliberately libelous. and we ll have a lot more on that in a moment to tell you about. but it comes after special counsel robert mueller accused manafort of repeatedly lying to his team and to the fbi. the president s attorney, rudy giuliani, tells cnn that trump has been upset for weeks about the treatment of manafort.