so far, it s been all about the outsiders, trump, ben carson, fiorina and cruz, they re rising fast. now, part of the reason they re connecting so well is they don t use talking points. they re not afraid to take on their own party. here s dr. carson doing just that. gl there s no question that the gop has a very excellent opportunity by paying attention to some to have communities they have neglected and forming them about history of the gop. in fact, a party that was formed as an abolitionist party, a party that worked hard to get gun rights for friedman. a party that pushed civil rights and vote rights. here now, ebony williams, welcome both of you. good to see you. i think it s simple. i think republicans have failed,
johnson represented to a movement on the ground. the same with abe lincoln. he never belonged to an abolitionist party. so do you think john brown did the right thing by hurling his entire life and his family against slavery? he did. the position that you chose, two presidents who are commanders in chief, who signed laws, bills into law and abide by, not in all circumstances but expected to abide by the rule of law, something that you have often flaunted in both presidents were responding to movements that didn t abide by the rule of law. the black freedom movement broke the law consistently and that was part of the strength and beauty of it and the black freedom movement grew and evolved every minute, every day. the kind of store we tell about
think it was, two years ago now, three years ago now. and there were four republicans in the state senate that went along. and the business community rallied behind them. they said, we want this too. and two lost their primaries. there was a consequence for the very few republicans in new york state who came out and said, i m for this. they did pay a price for it. those were weak candidates, though. that s a good example, but there s a lot more to that than just the gay marriage vote. i haven t seen it yet where anybody s really paying a price. a lot of these peep are paper tigers. so what s the culture like so we think of illinois, you know, mark kirk, a moderate republican senator and big jen thompson, moderate republican you have a moderate republican tradition. but is there a growing the movement that pushed you out, are conservatives a lot more powerful than they were a decade ago? let s go back even further. the land of lincoln an an abolitionist party. we ran on the