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Can i just ask before we start, it might be ms. Kern to respond. But how did thing get to the place they are at right now . How would you describe the situation weve gotten to in terms of the Staffing Levels . Well, ron is going to talk a little bit about that, but basically before we had the structural fix, we did have a budget problem. Prior to last year when it was adjusted in the budget, and so there was a slowing down of hiring and we just got behind the 8ball. Vacancy rates for many years, four or five years, below 5 in rn vacancies. So, its just within the last year and a half where its gone up. And once you get behind its harder and harder to catch up. At the Fire Department there was a call for bringing in increased overtime versus hiring new staff. Here you use overtime and per diems instead of new staff because you havent brought on new staff. Is that a policy call to use per diem and ot to be able to offset benefits like we do in the Fire Department or is it another matter

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