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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:31:00

most of the issues, fraud, who will be required to testify? that s an issue for the judge. whether or not there was any government misconduct like they claimed. that s an issue for the judge. the judge can set a hearing. they re challenging but it involves a former president of the united states and that has never happened before and hopefully will never happen again. that s why all the media is watching, the whole world is watching and our criminal justice system is on trial as well as trump. we will get an update as soon as the trial ends. jon sale, thank you as always for joining us. we appreciate it. my pleasure, katy. and coming up, i see a red door and i want it painted white. what changing a rolling stone

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:21:00

white suits walking in. it feels there s a two-man band running this given the stakes. it does not mean they re not the idea they don t have enough people to go through the documents is not going to be, i think, a prevailing remark. this is my favorite panel so far today. please come back and join me at the same time. it does make for interesting conversation. i love smart women. thank you very much. coming up next the perspective from john sale, a ruling on a trial date will mean for judge aileen cannon. what was this person thinking? sources at the pentagon say a u.s. soldier bolted over the dmz into north korea. what has since happened to that soldier? age is just a number, and mine s unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:14:00

and back with me msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. i know our colleague ken dilanian is in the courtroom. any idea what might be going on? i think they re going back and forth on a whole host of issues related to scheduling which in the normal case would be boring. in this case it s everything and we are waiting with baited breath if judge cannon gives the government what they want, a december trial date, or push it out a few months in which case running smack dab into another trial the same defendant is facing in new york, or she could decide to delay it indefinitely which i think would be pretty amazing in its own right because the former president hasn t made a legal argument for why they can t have the trial. what is the argument he s made? this is such a big deal, wow, this is so much discovery. that s not a legal argument. what about if he has other cases going on? that s not a legal argument. it s a very good practical argument. it s not a legal argument.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:58:00

get it done by february? before the march stuff in new york? i think it s possible she ll say that. generally speaking, lawyers need time to prepare for trial, right. if we have a march trial in the manhattan d.a. s case, odds are that todd blanch will say i need time but he may not get it. thank you very much. for the 28th consecutive week, israelis are protesting benjamin netanyahu s plans for judicial overhaul. authorities are clashing with protesters on the streets right now. we see what appear s to be a truck spraying the crowd with a high-powered hose in addition to other measures being taken. joining me from tel aviv is raf sanchez. what s happening out there? reporter: we have been talking about this crisis in israel for six months, but tonight there is a feeling this is coming to a head, and that is because prime minister benjamin netanyahu is poised as early as this weekend to ram the first

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:29:00

the government asked for and that march date. i think it will be reasonable to both sides. we ll see. rarely appealable. the judge has a wide amount of discretion in setting his or her trial calendar. if she sets it in an egregious way that brings up all these fears where her loyalties lie after the way she ruled in the leadup to this, if the special counsel s team can t appeal a trial date, you said that s not possible it s usually not. there is an extraordinary writ, so just pick a number off the top of my head if she sets it off 14 months i think the special counsel has the ability to ask for this extraordinary relief and to ask to recuse her. i don t think she will do that.

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