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is always paint i had as the boogeyman that s coming to get france and it never materializes. i think that s one of the reasons that bookies in the back of our very illegal otb practice at morning joe, i think that s one of the reasons the bookies put it at 58.5%. because we are always hearing that le pen is going we heard it leading up to the last presidential election and she got absolutely crushed. there is no reason to believe this is going to be a 51% to 49% race as everyone has been predicting, but, again, mika, as i have said before we have bet against secretariat in the 73 belmont so what do we know. and if you believe it or not this is tied to russia and the top story. french president emmanuel macron and his far-right challenger marine le pen clashed this their only face-to-face debate ahead of sunday s election.
and for our future. reporter: so a fiery debate, but perhaps failing to engage with a large section of the french electorate. you know, guys, commentators here talking with that this is not a hope election, that people are very cynical here at this point because of the war in ukraine, because of the issues of inflation and the pressures on people s pocketbooks. and many people will be voting without much enthusiasm for who they re voting for. nbc s keir simmonds. thank you very much for your reporting. ed luce, what are your thoughts on the french election as it stands right now? i probably share your 58.5% odds, but the 2016 u.s. election and this election between macron and le pen have a lot of
heroes, if you are chip row and you are planning to toss out elections, make not so much. those are the same people, the heroes of 2020 who are so nervous about the restrictions of voting rights in so many states and why we ve been frustrated at the lack of federal effort and legislation about this. josh, i want to ask you about democracies people are worried about right now, can we talk about france right now and the rise of nationalism across europe. particularly in france, le pen, morning joe had her as a clear underdog. morning joe off track had 58.5 over/under. certainly the underdog, i think we also agree on that. but still seeing on track at the very least to see her perform over five years ago. what threat does she and others like her pose? this is now the third time.
that s the over/under for bettors. this is a sucker s bet. it won t be as close as they say it is. again, morning joe s off track betting, let me check it again. is this right, jay? is this right? 58.5%, that is what the line is, macron winning easily once again over le pen. where are you putting your franks willie? we should remind our viewers the same morning joe bookies picked buster douglass to beat mike tyson in tokyo. we did. 42 to 1 odds. jonathan lemire, you have written a piece about that, that the white house and others are concerned that vladimir putin, whatever he ends up doing in ukraine, that his brand of authoritarianism, she may not win, as joe points out macron is still the favorite, but there is a creep of authoritarianism