he bought the firearm they don t have any proof that he actually was using drugs. and what they re trying to do is to drive a little bit of distance and perhaps a little bit of his frame of mind from that period to have the jury doubt whether he knew he was breaking the law when he bought this fire alarm. she was very embarrassed. she said about her draw her drug use and you could see that this is a very emotional part of this, of this trial, emotional part of this testimony. hunter biden was looking straight ahead, looking at her periods during her during her testimony, boys and evan before we heard from her, we heard from this gun store employee, who sold hunter biden the gun what did jurors hear from him well, the importance of this gun store employees for you as he was there when hunter biden was filling out the form, the atf form 4473, where he attested that he was not an addict, was not somebody who is addicted to drugs drugs and
addiction at the time he purchased that gun. i want you to do a deeper dive on that, zoe kes tin described hunter biden as, and i m quoting, cognizant and coherent while smoking, echoing something that his ex-wife said on the stand about observing hunter biden high functioning while using drugs. who do you think that helps, though? is it the prosecution or the defense, and why ultimately, do you think in the minds of jurors it could be important? you know, it s actually not that relevant to the defense. remember, hunter is charged with lying on this atf form. it s this 4473 form that everybody who buys a gun has to fill out affirming that you re legally allowed to purchase the weapon, so the central question is are you an unlawful user or addicted to illegal drugs? hunter checked the box no. so what the prosecution witnesses so far have
audiobook played yesterday but still deals with the overall drug addiction. it crack takes into the darkest recesses of your soul. as well as the darkest corners of every community. prosecutors say this gun form is central to the case, firearm at form 4473, there is a no jack-in-the-box that is the part of the case, hunter s attorney says that is not clear if hunter even check that a box and there might be some chain of custody issues. martha: okay,, thank you very much. let s bring in judge jeanine pirro, cohost of the five, great to have you with us tonight. as david just told us, the man who sold him the gun is currently on the stand but we heard today from catherine beall, his former wife. let s pull up some things from what it she testified today, she said in 2015, 2019, which augustine boxes encompasses the spirit, she would search
majority african-american will decide what happens next. former fbi special agent stuart kaplan enjoins me now, you will get to the jury in a second. i think we just heard that the defense is going to claim that of the fbi form was doctored? do you think that is a defense that is going to seem feasible? jesse that is in atf 4473 form. that document is not in any way get transmitted to the fbi. goes through the atf data from database from the gun the seller, meaning the gun store. the only way that atf 4473 came into possession of the fbi is when there was an investigation that was initiated to look into the veracity of whether or not hunter biden in fact filled out and misstated the truth whether
on keeping tabs on possessions very well for about a four year period of time. trace: not is nobody s objecting that, the doj say the laptop is yours and the laptop is legit but it s also exhibit 1 in this trial. in the laptop there is so much information, dates, at times, conversations, moments where they were lucid interactions with other people which will fly in the face of a potential defense argument that he was so intoxicated, so under the influence that he did not know what he was doing at that time when he completed the application, in the 4473 doj file format. that laptop being exhibit 1 is not symbolic, it is a bombshell for the defense. please don t forget, in this case may not be about guilt or innocence, a. may not be about the fog it s proven to the elements of the charge. it may be playing with house money because the united states supreme court has a case,