during her purchase of these two weapons. according to the publicly filed complaint, dawn nguyen told the seller of these guns, gander mountain located in henrietta, new york, that she was to be the true owner and buyer of the guns instead of william spangler. gregg: so what is her ultimate responsibility, if any at all and what punishment should she face? let s bring in our legal panel, defense attorney and tad nelson, also a defense attorney and former prosecutor. david, you think the focus here is a bit misplaced? well, obviously spangler is the killer. there is no question about that, gregg. you know, when miss nguyen went into the gun shop, she got this form, the atf 4473 form and right at the top you ll note it says $250,000 fine and ten years
now capitol hill wants attorney general holder to explain why the suspect was released despite evidence clearly running guns. william la jeunesse has more on this. reporter: this is precisely the type of information the congressional investigators say the department of justice is hiding because it came from a back channel insider, not in response to a subpoena and jon, basically there were two suspect, not just the ring leader but another guy they could have arrested but did not. so i want to show you a form, known as 4473. according to law, when you buy a gun, you answer on this form that you re buying the gun for yourself. not someone else. otherwise, it is called lying and buying. and it s illegal. now, on march 30 and 31st, ariel patino bought eight weapons at a phoenix gun store and claimed those guns were for himself. two days later, however, patino s guns showed up in manuel selesikasa s car, the
gives fast, lasting relief. got an itch? gold bond lotion. the quick fix for almost every itch. if i have just one question on my mind about the tragic events of saturday, it s this. how did this kid get a gun? here to help us understand what s involved in buying guns in arizona is alan korwin. journalist and author of several books, including the arizona gun owner s guide. welcome, allan. nice to be here. so walk us through this step by step. how do you buy a gun in arizona? i walk in a store and what happens? well, any law abiding adult in america can buy a firearm. it s legal property. they go through a pretty standard process. you fill out a 4473 form. it takes your name and address and other identifying information that identifies the firearm and it identifies the
walk us through this step by step. how do you buy a gun in arizona? i walk in a store and what happens? well, any law abiding adult in america can buy a firearm. it s legal property. they go through a pretty standard process. you fill out a 4473 form. it takes your name and address and other identifying information that identifies the firearm and it identifies the dealer and you fill out an entire list of questions on disqualifying factors and then the dealer performs a background check through the fbi. the fbi has a list in theory of everybody who can t own a firearm for felony conviction, dishonorable discharge, illegal aliens, conditions like that you would expect and if you re a law abiding adult and make it through the background check, you can buy a firearm. almost more important than
there s a whole issue of racial profiling or discrimination against people. if you think someone looks like a gang banger or looks like an alien and you deny them a firearm, the aclu would be on you right away for profiling a person or discriminating and many dealers will refuse to sell a firearm to someone who seems incompetent or doesn t seem right but you take a risk there. a law abiding adult has a constitutional right to keep and bear arms and if one individual decides i don t like you and i don t think we should sell you a gun, you may have a cause of action against the person. i m looking at this form. the thing that struck me with the form you referred to, 4437 i think are the numbers 4473. 4473. when i looked at this form what struck me was no obligation for fingerprints or any real way to make sure the person filling it out was the person who he pretended to be or claims to be. you need one form of i.d. a driver s license or other i.d.