trump kept delaying it, and at the same 250i78 time, the military financial assistance was suspended. so now eric swalwell, and we re going to hopefully be learning more about this in the next couple of minutes here, says they have proof from volker that there was some sort of requirement that zelensky put out a statement saying they would investigate biden in order to have that bilateral meeting. which is the definition of a quid pro quo, i believe. that s incredible. rachael bade, we ll be looking for that. appreciate your reporting today. david gergen, what do you make of this? i think it s more quid pro quo. anderson, before we went to the break, the point i wanted to make about the president s relationship with china, he s not only, you know, asked them for this for help on the investigation, but remember, and elizabeth warren put out a tweet on this tonight, he basically has told the chinese that he would not he would stay quiet
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furthered that story in two important ways. last week, the journal reported that on a second meeting, between mike flynn and turkish officials, also in new york, except this 250i78 time, it was off the election. it was during the transition, in december. and once again, they reportedly talked about kidnapping gullen, kidnapping this turkish cleric that lives in pennsylvania. if the wall street journal s reporting on this story is right, though, that means after the initial meeting in september where woolsey says they talked in general terms about kidnapping this guy, if the wall street journal is right about this, that means that flynn and turkish officials then met again to talk about it three months later, in december. so they met about it first in december and talked about it in general terms and then met in december and talked about it again. and that time, when they met about it in december, according to the wall street journal, the plan wasn t some general idea. now it wa