3,500. 4,000. greg: you re right. bob: it s not hoard get 10,000 people. eric: i ll go. bob: you are up. eric: so in a rare occasion, happened twice, 1800 and 1824, the electoral college could actually be a tie. romney and obama could each get 269. and so what happens in an actual electoral college tie? the house of representatives picks the president. now there is enough republicans in the house, state-by-state, that they would probably pick romney. so you would have president romney. the quirky part, the senate picks vice president and they would likely pick joe biden, v.p. that would put a romney-biden. kimberly: biden is indestructible. bob: the idea that the democrats would turn down ryan as the vice president would be a shock to me.
yes, that s correct. first time since ever? i don t know. 1824. andrew jackson. you just did your must-read in politico, the blog that you did this morning. john quincy adams. i ve got to say, the headline this morning, though, really has to be the new ohio poll. five points. it s getting tougher and tougher for romney people to suggest that this state s a toss-up. that s strong. that s a strong advantage with early voting going the president s way and their turnout operation. i don t know how romney gets past that. it s hard. you know, if you think about, though, these nightmare scenarios, 269-269 in those scenarios, or the recount scenario, they re just horrible for the country. we ll just be back we re so much more polarized than we were back in 2000. both sides are prime to call this an illegitimate election on the left and right. if we wende up with one of those scenarios, if he wins the election but loses the popular vote, it s just going to be
three southern states, 269 to 269. it goes to house of representatives and republicans are going to control by our count at least 29 of the 50 house delegation. each house delegation has one vote and critical vote to elect the next president. steve: then does the senate pick the vice president? indeed. if there is 269-269 tie. it goes to the senate. if the democrats hold the senate even 50/50 guess who gets to break the tie vote as the incumbent vice president when it comes up in his favor? that is right, joe biden, the romney-biden administration will be born. steve: has that ever happened in history? it started in the house of representatives back in 1824, it went to the house of representatives for john quincy adams and, of course, in the great tie of 1800 between
3,500. 4,000. greg: you re right. bob: it s not hoard get 10,000 people. eric: i ll go. bob: you are up. eric: so in a rare occasion, happened twice, 1800 and 1824, the electoral college could actually be a tie. romney and obama could each get 269. and so what happens in an actual electoral college tie? the house of representatives picks the president. now there is enough republicans in the house, state-by-state, that they would probably pick romney. so you would have president romney. the quirky part, the senate picks vice president and they would likely pick joe biden, v.p. that would put a romney-biden. kimberly: biden is indestructible. bob: the idea that the democrats would turn down ryan as the vice president would be a shock to me.
harrison in 1888, hayes in 1786, john quincy adams in 1824 and might have happened in 1960 with john f. kennedy. real clear politics told the story this week and it s looking more and more possible if not likely that it s going to happen again this year. just look at the rcp average. mitt romney s pulled ahead slightly in the national horse race but running behind just about all of the most important swing states. we re supposed to be okay with the system because supposedly it protects the interest of states that would be ignored. do away with the electoral college and the candidates will camp out in the biggest media markets, ignore fly-over country and govern without the interest of any small states in mind. sorry but that argument is as joe biden might say, a bunch of stuff. for one thing, not many of the states that are part of the battleground are really that small. i mean, ohio? florida? north carolina? i think they d get plenty of