recorded testimony by former pence chief of staff mark short who was with vice president pence an january 6th. was a firsthand witness to trump s pressure campaign in the days leading up to it. we re told house investigators will try to make the case that the pressure on pence directly distributed to the insurrection at the capitol and the continuing ongoing threat to the rule of law and democracy in the united states. many aides are promising new information about what the vice president was doing during the riot, and where he was hiding as that mob chanted, hang mike pence, hang mike pence. the panel also will focus on the role of conservative lawyer john eastman in pushing the bo fgus unconstitutional theory that pence has the power to invalidate legal, lawful e electoral votes. let s go to ryan nobles on capitol hill right now. ryan, the chairman of the select committee congressman bennie thompson of mississippi just chaired a block buster new information about a potentia
when pressed right here on the beat. i was part of the process to make sure there were ultimate electors for when we hope the challenge to the seat of the electors would be heard and successful part of the 12th amendment of the constitution and the electoral count act. everything done was done legally and to the rules and under the leadership of rudy giuliani. that is the sound of a witness he s talking to him today a witness of himself and giuliani and he may have known his conduct was basically busted in so many other receipts or documents or other peoples testimony that he somehow thought he might try to get ahead of that and what he thought the feds or public would eventually find out. well, today prosecutors may be asking questions about that and other activity he s one of the longest serving aides donald trump has dating all the way back to early 2016 this is from then. you can see him at trump tower heading in for meetings to all the public advocacy for what he
mean by that. is it not enough to reform the 1877 act and protect us from went almost happened on january 6th? what should be in this new idea or proposal of yours? right. well as you said, trump had this idea to have the vice president to take unilateral authority. regardless of what the people wanted with their votes. that idea really comes from the 12th amendment of the constitution, unfortunately, which does have some ambiguities in it. as you said, what s this new bill could do is have congress saying, for the purpose of commerce s world are receiving in counting the electoral votes, they are not going to let that ambiguity make a mess of things. they are going to insist that the vice president does not have that authority. so we ask, we would be safer if we had a clear quote the tutor. but the west we can do with a new constitution across additional members on this issue is to have a better
several states where the big lie has been propounded and individual statutes, it s not just by chance the republican party has been very good about seating low level state officials with the sort of power. so the supreme court, they have taken the plate case in front of, them no one would ve taken them seriously a few years ago. but it with this court, you have to take it seriously. if essence in the term in the 12th amendment of the constitution, constitution, and the claim is that state legislatures have the final say whenever there is a dispute, even as against courts in their states. and north carolina, for example, the law says that the court decides, finally, but there is an actual possibility that five members of the courts say, because of this mention in the constitution, it s actually the legislatures, they can t be overruled by state court. and that would turbocharge all of the efforts in individual states, 30 of which are controlled by republicans. so it would be a sort of
the sort of power. so the supreme court taking the plate case in front of, them no one would ve taken them seriously a few years ago. but it with this court, you have to take it seriously. if essence in the term in the 12th amendment of the constitution, constitution, and the claim is that state legislatures have the final say whenever there is a dispute, even as against courts in their states. and north carolina, for example, the law says that the court decides, finally, but there is an actual possibility that five members of the courts say, because of this mansion in the constitution, it s actually the legislatures, they can t be overruled by state court. and that would turbocharge all of the efforts in individual states, 30 of which are controlled by republicans. so it would be a sort of comprehensive step that would permit minority rule to just