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With trulicity, i click to activate whats within me. If you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar numbers with a noninsulin option, ask your doctor about onceweekly trulicity. Scott pelley the isis assault on paris and the isis inspired massacre in san bernardino, california share a disturbing fact no one saw them coming. Today, the biggest terrorist threat to the United States is not like al qaeda. Isis is wealthy, agile, sophisticated online, and operates freely in a vast territory of its own. It prefers to be called the Islamic State. The u. S. Government calls it isil. Reporters tend to call it isis for the Islamic State in iraq and syria. But whatever the name, it has ruthlessness to attack the u. S. The man who is supposed to stop that attack is john brennan, the director of the c. I. A. And tonight, in a rare interview, we talk to brennan about a world of trouble and we start with the most pressing danger. Is isis coming here . John brennan i think isil does want to eventually find its, its mark here. Pelley youre expecting an attack in the United States . Brennan im expecting them to try to put in place the operatives, the material or whatever else that they need to do or to incite people to carry out these attacks clearly. So i believe that their attempts are inevitable. I dont think their successes necessarily are. Pelley can you explain to the folks watching this interview why these people want to kill us . How does attacking the United States further their interests . Brennan i think theyre trying to provoke a clash between the west and the muslim world, or the world that they are in as a way to gain more because what they are claiming is that the United States is trying to take over their countries which is the furthest thing from the truth. Pelley paris was a failure of intelligence. All but one of the eight terrorists were french citizens, trained by isis in syria. They returned, unnoticed, and attacked six locations killing 130 people. What did you learn from paris . Brennan that there is a lot that isil probably has underway that we dont have obviously we knew the system was blinking red. We knew just in the days before that isil was trying to carry out something. But the individuals involved have been able to take advantage of the newly available means of communication that are that are walled off, from Law Enforcement officials. Pelley youre talking about encrypted internet communications. Brennan yeah, im talking about the very sophisticated use of these technologies and communication systems. Pelley after paris you told your people what . Brennan weve got to work we have to work harder. We need to have the capabilities, the technical capabilities, the human sources. We need to be able to have advanced notice about this so that we can take this e steps to stop them. Believe me, Intelligence Security services have stopped numerous attacks operatives that have been moved from maybe the iraq to syria theater into europe. They have been stopped and interdicted and arrested and detained and debriefed because of very, very good intelligence. Pelley but the failure in paris allowed isis to attack with bombs and assault rifles. And brennan told us theres more in their arsenal. Does isis have chemical weapons . Brennan we have a number of chemical munitions on the battlefield. Brennan sure. Yeah. Pelley isis has access to chemical artillery shells . Brennan uhhuh. There are reports that isis has access to chemical precursors the c. I. A. Believes that isis has the ability to manufacture small quantities of chlorine and mustard gas. Pelley and the capability of exporting those chemicals to the west . Brennan i think theres always the potential for that. This is why its so important to cut off the various transportation routes and smuggling routes that they have used. Pelley are there American Assets on the ground right now hunting this down . Brennan the u. S. Intelligence is actively involved in in being a part of the effort to destroy isil and to get as much insight into what they have on the ground inside of syria and iraq. Pelley john brennan has worked at the c. I. A. For most of 36 years, ever since he saw a want ad while he was in graduate school. And he was a high ranking executive here during the recent controversies, iraqs phantom weapons of mass destruction and 9 11. Do you think of water boarding as a dark time in the history of your agency . Brennan sure. That was authorized. It was something that i do not believe was appropriate. It is something that is not used now and as far as im concerned will not be used again. Pelley you were in management here at the time. You didnt stop it. Brennan no. I had expressed to a few people my misgivings and concerns about it, but no, i did not, you know, slam my fists on a desk. I did not go in and say we shouldnt be doing this. I think long and hard about what i maybe should have done more of at the time. But it was a different time. The ashes of World Trade Center were still smoldering. We knew that other waves of attacks were planned and some that were underway. Pelley in the year or so before 9 11 the c. I. A. Had a covert action plan to attack al qaeda in afghanistan. The administration at that time said, dont do that. We have time. Well deal with this later. Is this administration making the same mistake now . Brennan well you know there are a lot of options that are presented to this administration as well as to previous administrations and the president has pursued what he believes is appropriate for us to do in order to protect the citizens of this country. Pelley what do you think our policy would be after an isis directed attack in the United States . Brennan if theres a major attack here and we had isis fingerprints on it certainly this would encourage us to be even more forceful in terms of what we need to do. Pelley if our policy after an attack in the United States would be to be more forceful, why isnt that our policy now before an attack . Brennan well, i think were being as forceful as we can be in making sure that were being surgical though as well. What we dont want to do is to alienate others within that region, and have any type of indiscriminate actions that are additional civilians. Pelley the c. I. A. Brennan leads from langley, virginia looks nothing like the agency he joined. Its grown significantly but the numbers are secret. C. I. A. Fights with its own Ground Troops and has an air force of drones. The complexity of the threats today is unprecedented; hacking, the emergence of a more aggressive china, north korea, russia and iran and countries failing all across the middle east. In addition to syria you are now dealing with failed states in libya, somalia, yemen. How do you develop intelligence in all of these countries where the u. S. Has no presence . Brennan we need to be able to operate in areas that are denied to us. We find a way to have our eyes and ears there so that we can inform our policy makers. I do think though that this is going to be more and more a feature of the future. Looking at how we need to enhance our expeditionary capabilities and activities because we need to be on the front lines. Pelley well do you imagine setting up c. I. A. Bases, covert bases in many of these countries . Brennan i see c. I. A. Needing to have the presence as well as intelligence and interact with the locals. And we are in fact doing that in a number of those areas. Pelley who around here has the authority to okay a drone strike . Brennan i know there are a lot of reports about the c. I. A. s role and involvement on that. And i think as you can understand im not going to address any of those reports about c. I. A. s covert action activities. Pelley do you have to accept the deaths of civilians when making a decision about using these weapons . Do you have to say, there are likely to be civilians killed here but its worth it . Brennan well, you know in war there is whats called the law of Armed Conflict that allows for proportional civilian deaths. I must tell you that the u. S. Military and the u. S. Government as a whole does an exceptionally, exceptionally strong job of minimizing to the greatest extent possible any type of collateral damage. Pelley but it isnt necessarily a shooting war that worries brennan most. His c. I. A. Is facing a new front in cyber. And to focus on it he set up the agencys first new directorate in more than 50 years. Brennan that cyber environment can pose a very, very serious and significant attack vector for our adversaries if they want to take down our infrastructure, if they want to create havoc in transportation systems, if they want to do great damage to our financial networks. There are safeguards being put in place. But that cyber environment is one that really is the thing that keeps me up at night. Pelley do other countries have the capability of turning the lights off in the united brennan having the capability but then also having the intent are two different things. I think fortunately right now those who may have the capability do not have the intent. Those who may have the intent right now i believe do not have the capability. Because if they had the capability they would deploy and employ those tools. Pelley a few months ago your personal emails were hacked. What did you learn from that, director . Brennan it shows that there are ways that individuals can get into the personal emails of anybody. Pelley is privacy dead . Brennan no. No. Privacy should never be dead. Pelley yeah, i know it shouldnt be. But is it, in fact, with these hacktivists, with these nation state actors, with all the things that weve learned about government snooping all around the world, isnt it effectively dead . Brennan you know, its interesting that people always point to the government or others, in terms of the invasion of privacy. But pelley any government . Brennan yeah, but up their privacy, you know, sometimes wittingly and sometimes unwittingly as they give information to companies or to sales reps. Or they go out on facebook or the various social media. They dont realize though that they are then making themselves vulnerable to exploitation. Pelley when your secure phone rings in the middle of the night, whats your first thought . Brennan its usually one of two things. One, its bad news that something tragic has happened to a c. I. A officer or to u. S. Personnel. Or theres been a terrorist attack somewhere of of significance. And so when i reach for the phone i, you know, say a short prayer that its not that. The other, other option is that im being asked to make a decision in the middle of the night on something that may have life and death implications. Could be something related to a covert action program. Your watch . Brennan yes. Yes. Not long after i came to the agency we had an officer, a former army ranger, went back out to afghanistan. In the middle of the night he heard a an explosion at the compound next to his where his afghan compatriots were sleeping. He grabbed his gear, he went over there. Another explosion took place. Rather than taking cover he went right to the middle of the fight and started to drag his wounded afghan partners out of harms way. He was hit twice. Continued to fire, then as he was continuing to protect his colleagues and comrades, a hand grenade landed not too far from him and he was mortally wounded. Pelley brennan told us that he has gone to dover, delaware to receive the remains of his fallen. But he can only go when he wont c. I. A. At headquarters, anonymous stars are carved for the dead. 113 in all, 31 since 9 11. And brennan presides over an annual memorial for the families. Brennan we have family members of Agency Officers who died in the 1950s whose grandchildren grandnieces and nephews come back here in order to feel a part of this agency. So its a great, great honor to be a part of this organization where, again, selfless men and women of the agency have done have we made mistakes . Yeah, we have. Do we need to be held accountable for them . Yeah. But lets not forget the in the name of c. I. A. Glor good evening, the u. S. 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Steve kroft as everyone knows, bigtime sports have become big business, and most of the organizations that run them operate with little or no oversight from government or independent entities. Concussions in football, and doping in baseball that demand public scrutiny, but there has never been a scandal like the one enveloping fifa the most powerful Sporting Organization in the world. Its purpose is to regulate and promote the most popular sport in the World International football, or soccer as we call it in the United States. But according to the u. S. Justice department, it has been operating as an organized Crime Syndicate for the past 24 years. And some of those alleged crimes like bribery and Money Laundering were planned and carried out here in the United States. Dozens of top fifa officials past and present are under indictment and the investigation is still in its early stages. In a few weeks hundreds of fifa officials from around the world will descend on zurich for a special meeting one of the most important in its 112year last. Its ranks have been thinned. Its president , sepp blatter suspended; its general secretary fired and five Current Executive Committee members facing criminal charges. Some nervous delegates may decide to skip the event, given what happened the last time they got together in may. Authorities swooped in and made arrests here and on three different continents, acting at the behest of the u. S. Justice department and attorney general loretta lynch. Loretta lynch they were expected to uphold the rules that keep soccer honest, and to protect the integrity of the game. Instead, they corrupted the business of worldwide soccer to serve their interests and to enrich themselves. Kroft fifas main job is to organize and run the biggest sporting event on earth, the world cup, a monthlong tournament of National Teams that generates billions and billions of dollars and crowns a World Champion every four its like the olympics, only bigger. The honor of hosting the games can alter a nations fortunes and the competition is intense. Its fifas executive committee that decides where the world cup will be held and how the billions will be divided. According to the indictment thats where the corruption comes in. How did the racketeering enterprise work . John buretta the allegations are that it was all about selection. Choosing where events would be held. Choosing who got the rights to broadcast. It was those key choices which were very lucrative to the recipients that created the power here. Kroft john buretta used to run the organized crime section of the u. S. Attorneys office in the Eastern District of new york, with a specialty in the mafia. Whos vinnie gorgeous . Kroft he was used to names like, genovese and gambino and had never heard of fifa until the case ended up on his desk. But he knew how the game was played. You want this . You gotta pay me. Buretta those are definitely the allegations. Kroft you gotta pay me 10 million in one case. Buretta there were many millions in many instances alleged not just for lowlevel tournaments. But the world cup itself. Kroft so youre talking about shakedowns . Buretta absolutely. Kroft according to the indictment that 10 million bribe was paid by the government of south africa to help secure the 2010 world cup. The money, originally disguised as a charitable contribution ended up in a bank account controlled by former fifa Vice President jack warner, a trinidian who then ran the north Caribbean Confederation of fifa, which was headquartered in new york. He is currently fighting extradition to the u. S. Jack warner keep the faith, man. You gotta keep the faith. Kroft warner is one of 25 fifa officials who have been named in the indictments. As for the bribes, well there here. The biggest was 150 million paid by a Sports Marketing firm for contracts to sell broadcasting rights. Then there were the smaller tips a stack of envelopes each filled with 40,000 in cash from an executive Committee Member from qatar who was buying votes in a fifa election. Qatar has a very high profile at fifa right now. And its a source of some embarrassment. Sepp blatter the 2022 fifa world cup is. Qatar. Kroft the qataris were happy, but most people thought it an odd choice one that brought fifa unwanted attention and made it the butt of international jokes. John oliver there are now allegations that some fifa executives took bribes to put the world cup in qatar, and i hope thats true. Because otherwise it makes literally no sense. Kroft its not just that temperatures routinely top 120 record. The tiny country has no soccer tradition, and it would seem very few fans. Games there are often played in empty stadiums. Fifa also ignored its own internal security report which warned of a high risk for terrorism. Maybe the executive committee was impressed with this dazzling, multimedia Virtual Reality vision of what the Qatar World Cup would look like in 2022. Right now, this is all just a mirage. Most people who follow International Soccer arent surprised by all this. The chicanery at fifa has been an open secret in europe largely because of this man, andrew jennings, a grizzled freelance reporter who had been harping about it for more than a decade. Andrew jennings all we know is, its the biggest scandal ever in world sport. Theres nothing like it. Kroft how did you get into i mean were you a were you a laughs i mean good luck to people who enjoy it, but im a crime reporter. I took one look at fifa and, right, thats it. Its there. And id no doubts about it. Kroft jennings, who had broken some big stories exposing corruption at the International Olympic committee, was asked by a Sports Editor to take a look at fifa. He couldnt believe his luck. Jennings i did start thinking, theres a few bad apples. Oh, goodness me, heres a few more. My goodness, who isnt . Kroft so, bribery was just Standard Operating Procedures at all level of fifa . Jennings well, there does come a time that you dont really get upset anymore, just another bribe. Because theres so many. Operating. Its an m. O. Its how theyd run the business. Kroft when he began asking rude questions at fifa news he was ostracized and exiled to the parking lot. For years, his colleagues in the gadfly, but he turned out to be right, and eventually people started paying attention. He landed a gig with the bbc launching kamikaze attacks on the likes of fifa president sepp blatter. Jennings do you know which football officials took bribes from the i. S. L. Marketing company . Blatter i dont speak about that. Kroft and the aforementioned fifa Vice President jack warner. Jennings this is a polite inquiry. Warner if i could have spit on you, i would have spat on you. Jennings if you could spit on me you would spit on me . Kroft jennings finally received his vindication in 2009 when the fbi asked for his help and invited him to london to meet with their agents. Jennings so i shuttled down to london and went into the room. Three immaculately dressed. Perfect manners. And business cards that says they did organized crime. And at that point, we were in. Kroft jennings gave the fbi his file on chuck blazer, the executive committee, who lived and worked out of trump tower. Blazer too was a colorful character 400 pounds of fun. He kept a pet parrot, traveled on private jets with world leaders; dined at the finest restaurants, and over a seven year period, ran up 29 million in charges on his black American Express card. He documented a lot of this on his personal blog, and seemed to have been having such a good time he forgot to pay his taxes, which turned out to be a big mistake for blazer and fifa. Michael hershman in my judgment, this indictment would not have happened without chuck blazer. Kroft michael hershman, has spent most of his career doing government and corporate investigations, and he knows chuck blazer. He says when the fbi arrested him, it immediately offered a deal go to jail for tax evasion, or cooperate and wear a wire. Latter . Hershman he chose the latter. Some kind. Hershman he had a keychain that was a microphone, as well as a keychain. Kroft hershman spent two years working inside fifa after being appointed to a Governance Committee charged with reforming the organization in the midst of all the scandals. Hershman i assumed that we would be able to take this organization and help turn it around, but i was dissuaded from that notion fairly early on. Kroft by whom . Hershman well, there was a lot of push back from the president , sepp blatter, and the executive Committee Members, many of whom were dinosaurs and didnt want to see the system change. Kroft he says there was a culture of corruption at fifa, and its top officials werent interested in advice from outsiders. They saw themselves as diplomats, entitled to financial gratuities and expensive gifts. Kroft they wanted tribute . Hershman they wanted tribute. You will. Kroft did you get any sense of that there was any fear or concern about somebody prosecuting them . Hershman none, whatsoever. Kroft and with good reason. Its no accident that the worlds most powerful Sports Organization is headquartered here in zurich. Its the banking capital of switzerland, a country whose economy is based on the principles of corporate privacy, and banking secrecy. And no one took more advantage of that than fifa. Roland buchel, a member of the Swiss National legislature, says until very recently, fifa received about as much government scrutiny as a yodeling club. The corruptions been no secret. People have been talking about it. And there have been allegations made for a decade or more. Why didnt the swiss government do something . Roland buchel well, there was a problem, a problem of laws. Corruption at this time it was kroft youre saying it was all right to bribe people . Buchel of course it wasnt all right, but it was not a this money was even tax was tax deductible. Thats thats just its not its not good. Kroft it was not only legal, it was tax deductible . Buchel yes. Kroft do you think its tarnished the reputation of switzerland at all . Buchel yes, of course. Absolutely. Kroft buchel has since managed to push through legislation making all forms of bribery illegal, and the swiss attorney general has finally begun his own criminal investigation into president sepp blatter and the Qatar World Cup. Fifas says its cooperating with the investigation and its position is that its a victim in all this that its a legitimate, lawabiding organization thats been used by unscrupulous individuals on the executive committee, and that justice should be allowed to run its course. Jerome champagne lets finish investigation and after that we go for trial. I have no problem with that. Kroft jerome champagne, a fifa defender, was one of Sepp Blatters closest advisors for a decade and is running in the Upcoming Elections to replace him as president. I mean, its been said that you were his eyes and ears. Kroft is that accurate . Champagne sometime his mouth also. Kroft sometimes his mouth. Eyes, ears and mouth. Not the nose . Did you champagne no. Kroft did you didnt sniff anything out . Mr. Blatter champagne i was kroft didnt sniff anything out that anything was wrong champagne i tell you, i was not involved in financial aspects. Kroft it if sepp blatter were running for reelection would you support him . Champagne i tell you, he would be reelected. Kroft he would be reelected . Champagne yes. Kroft champagnes opponents include a jordanian prince, a eikh from bahrain, a wealthy South African businessman and a european soccer official. All of them are preaching reform to a fifa membership that has long resisted it. I mean, fifa seems to be saying, okay, weve got this under control. You know, were were changing. Were reforming jennings you cant be serious kroft and blatters gone jennings you cant be serious. Kroft no, im im im jus this is what theyre saying . Jennings they havent done anything. Theyve nothing to reform themselves. Kroft so, you think its going to be business as usual . 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Bruce springsteen, hitting the road on tour once more, his wife patti by his side. And danny clinch is there to talk a bit about old times, and danny clinch in 99 was the first time i photographed you guys and it was then. Cooper and shoot the band cooper over the years, clinch has taken thousands of pictures of springsteen, and many have become classics. Clinch this is in a farmhouse thats on bruces property. And its just a really sweet little spot. Cooper there are portraits of the artist offstage that mirror the tone and the message of his music. And theres the famous shot of springsteen falling back into the crowd, where from the stage, clinch had a perfect view. Clinch i was like, right in there. And he fell back and i got my shot. Cooper and did you know you got it . Clinch i felt like i did. Yeah. Cooper clinch wears many hats, pun intended. As the official portrait covers the musical spectrum. Tony bennett and lady gaga. Clinch im not like a strongarm guy. I want to collaborate. Cooper country star miranda lambert. Clinch you want to make people relaxed. Cooper singersongwriter sam smith. Clinch you want to find a Common Ground as quickly as you can. Cooper Foo Fighter Dave Grohl and paul mccartney. Clinch youre in a sense part of the history of that moment. And i never really get tired of that, and i never take it for granted. Trey anastasio you want to go up on stage . Clinch yeah. Cooper he goes way back with many musicians. Thats Trey Anastasio of the band phish, one of several that let him shoot on stage, trusting him to stay out of the way. Its new years eve phish is playing Madison Square garden and to the crowd, clinch is the invisible man. What is it about shooting a concert . What are you trying to get . Clinch im trying to capture a moment. Microphone. Im trying to look for, like, a moment in between. Cooper he works from the back of the stage, hiding behind the drums or the amplifiers, waiting for that inbetween moment. Popping up like a whackamole to get his shot. And sometimes over the years, its paid off big, as in this classic photograph. The view from the stage of foo fighters dave grohl and a cast of thousands. Clinch it still gives me goose bumps. Cooper or this one, at a pearl jam concert. Eddie vedder and jeff ament, airborne. Clinch i popped up from behind jeffs amplifiers. The whole stadium was lit. Theyre up in the air in that perfect moment. Cooper you were hiding behind an amplifier. Clinch yeah. Cooper do you wear earplugs . Clinch i should. laughs cooper but you dont. Clinch i often dont, yeah. Cooper im surprised you can even hear me. Clinch yeah. Cooper or are you just reading my lips . Clinch yeah. It is i get out there and im like, jeez, i should probably have some earplugs. And then im like, i forgot cooper learning the ropes, clinch was an assistant to photographer annie leibovitz. He prefers shooting in natural light, and agrees with what the famous war photographer robert capa said if your pictures arent good enough, youre not close enough. And even when hes not working, hes still looking for that perfect shot. Clinch im photographing all the time. Im such a visual person and i dont want to miss that moment. Cooper youre never without your camera . Clinch rarely. Cooper even right now sitting here . Clinch yeah. See . I alalys want to be prepared, because you never know whos going to come to your studio. I really like this a lot. Cooper his studio is a place where any music fan would love to be locked up for a few days. Its like a history of rock and roll. Clinch theres a couple things here i want to show you so well show these over here. Cooper a couple years back, he photographed one of the men who started it all chuck berry, whos now 89. Jerry lee lewis, whos 80. And here are some pictures from that first session with bob dylan. Clinch we were trying to figure out you know give him a Little Something to do. Somebody came back with a whole bunch of different language newspapers. And he picked that one up and i started to shoot. Just, you know, keeping it real simple. Cooper more of his greatest hits southern gothic, gregg allman on a rainy day in savannah. Johnny cash, waiting to go onstage, a shot capturing the loneliness of life on the road. Country stars faith hill and tim mcgraw. Tom waits. Nora jones. Tupac shakur. Clinch he was really professional and he was into it. We chose a shirt that he was gonna change into. He took his shirt off and i saw all the tattoos. And i said, would you mind doing one like that . And he said yeah. Cooper when you took this did you know how strong it was . Clinch i mean, i felt like this was really a powerful image. I felt like the simplicity of it cooper clinch has branched out into making commercials and music videos. This one shot in willie nelsons bedroom on his tour bus. Clinch willie doesnt mind me taking his photograph, but hes not really crazy about sitting and being directed and all that sort of stuff. So ive found ways to work with that. Cooper he also got some very candid stills. Nelson braiding his hair. And indulging in his favorite recreational pastime, smoking a huge stick of weed. I dont even know what it would be called, its so big. Clinch i know, its something. Cooper its like a cigar. Clinch somehow i cant remember what happened after that. Cooper and then, there are the occasional shoots he wishes he could forget. Clinch i was at a madonna show many, many years ago and i was like in the sweet spot and she came out and i mean it was the best part of the show. Shooting, shooting. And im like, god, i must have shot a hundred pictures have i not run out of film . And i opened the back of my camera and there was no film in there. laughs so that happened to me only once. Cooper ouch. No doubt one reason he gets along so well with musicians he knows the language, wearing yet another hat to play with the tangiers blues band, and sometimes jamming with the likes of willie and bruce. His harmonica, like his camera, goes everywhere he goes. He grew up on the jersey shore, living in toms river, a few miles down the garden state parkway from springsteen country. He got the photography bug from his mother. Clinch she always had a camera, always still has a camera. And at times i find myself taking pictures of her taking cooper and from his father, he got a taste for classic rock and roll from the 50s, and classic cars. His prize possession a 1948 pontiac silver streak. The sort of car his father always noticed when clinch was a kid. Would go, oh, theres a 55 chevy. And, oh, you know, look at and i started to love cars cooper and hes always found a way to work them into the shot. Springsteen with the pontiac, and in his wifes 1950 hudson with clinchs father at the wheel. An old cadillac with neil youngs hat. And young inside, tooling around nashville. Clinch this was a great moment for me. Im a big fan of neils, to be driving around in this cadillac was. Cooper yeah. Was he driving . Clinch he was driving yeah, yeah. And we stopped at a little intersection and i grabbed it. But nothing could prepare him for the trip he made in december to the old car capital of the cuba, havana, its got to be a photographers dream. Clinch ill tell ya, theres so much interesting culture and theres so much great color everywhere you look is a photograph. Smile on your face kind of all the time. Clinch yeah. Yeah. Cooper the preservation hall jazz band was invited to a cuban music festival, and clinch tagged along with a documentary film crew. They play the traditional music of new orleans. A distinctive sound, and some distinctive instruments. You know, you do a lot rock and roll bands, dont see a lot of rock and roll bands with a sousaphone. Clinch yeah. Thats true. Cooper the rhythms of new orleans and havana are much alike. And the americans were soon jamming with cuban musicians on stage, at their homes. Clinch you dont need to speak spanish, you know . Cooper between concerts, clinch wandered the city, snapping away. And checking out the cars. Clinch im not just a fan of the really restored ones, the shiny ones. But i like the working mans cars. How theyve fixed it, how it had been repaired time after time. Cooper but his biggest thrill came backstage, with the band warming up. Clinch they were preparing for the show. And it just turned into this impromptu, like jam, this percussion type thing. And i live for those moments. Cooper hes seen a lot of moments, heard a lot of music. And has come to one conclusion. Clinch it doesnt matter if its hiphop. It doesnt matter if its jazz, or anything in between. If it hits you right here, its good music. Cooper and you can get a photo out of it. You can capture it. Clinch so far, yeah. laughs notebook, tupac shakur said if a picture is worth a thousand words, photographers are worth a million. Thats a thought shared by clinchs fellow native of the jersey shore, who says. Springsteen this is the man here. Cooper this is the man. Springsteen if you want the picture. Clinch come and get it. Springsteen there he is. Anderson cooper on the rock and roll art of danny clinch, plus more photos from the stage. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com. Sponsored by prevnar 13. What if one situp could prevent Heart Disease . One. Wishful thinking, right . But there is one step you can take to help prevent another serious disease. Pneumococcal pneumonia. One dose of the prevnar 13 vaccine can help protect you from pneumococcal pneumonia, an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain, difficulty breathing, and may even put you in the hospital. Even if you have already been vaccinated with another pneumonia vaccine, prevnar 13 may help provide additional protection. 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