Transcripts For SFGTV Small Business Commission 20220911

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Let sfgovtv know. Unusual. Thank you. Today we will begin with the rebe minored the Small Business commission is the public forum to voice opinions and occurrence about policies that affect the Economic Vitality of Small Businesses in San Francisco of the office of Small Business is the best place to get answers about doing business in San Francisco during an emergency f. You mead help with Small Business matters you can finds us online or via phone and always our services are free of charge. Before item one i like to thank modia services and sfgovtv for coordinating this hearing and helping to run the meeting. Call item 1. Roll call. Commissioner carter. Herech commissioner dickerson is absent. Commissioner herbert. Hee joovm commissioner huie. Here. President laguana. Commissioner commisioner william ortizcartagena cart. Thank you. The San Francisco Small Business commission and office of staff acknowledges we are on the home land of the Ramaytush Ohlone who are the original inhabitants. San francisco peninsula as stewards of the land the Ramaytush Ohlone have never ceded, lost or forgot their responsibilities as care takeers and for all people who is reside in their territory. We recognize we benefit from living and working on their home land. Wish to acknowledge the ancestors and relatives of the Ramaytush Ohlone. Call item 2 . Approval of legacy registry applications and resolutions a discussion and action item. The commission will discuss and possibly take action to approve legacy Business Applications we have richard legacy with office of Small Business. Good afternoon commissioners. Staff and members of the partial im richard Legacy Business Program manager i like to acknowledge Michelle Reynolds with marketing and communications. Michelle helped review and process the legacy business registry applications before you today. Sfgovtv, i have a power point. Commisioner william ortizcartagena each applicati staff report a draft resolution the application and case report and resolution from Planning Department. The applications submitted to planning on june 22nd and history by Historic Commission on july 20th. 2a is johns grill the business an americanitalian sit down bar this open in the 1908 in the wake of the earthquake and fire. There is traditional steakhouse and seafood. Clam chowder, salads and more. Diners are able to order the same that detective spade ordered in the novel. Chops, baked potato and sliced tomato there is a case with memories related to the falcon. Johns grill hosts election day parties for local and National Elections members may enjoy food. Features include exterior green awning, neon sign. Spatial green booths and a bar. The core tradition maintain to remain on the legacy registry is restaurant and bar. 2b latin bridal. A Clothing Store in the mission found in the 1990. Specializes in the sale of formal ware that celebrate latino culture. Specifically sell formal wear for firefighter communions, weddings and other life celebrations. Latin bridal sells latino accessories coins, bouquets that are piece of art and tailor out fits to suit the needs and budgets of customers without compromising on quality. Latin bridal supports the local community accepting credit and liaway payments. Core feature business must maintain is Clothing Store featuring special occasion attire. Item 2c is nomad cycle. The business is a bicycle shop in the outer sunset establishes in 1969. They serve as a bicycle sale, service and repair hub for community and tourists. Business provides a space for cyclists to socialize and get advice on roots and cites. Made 10,000 bicycle sales no mad is know anchor for San Francisco cyclists. The shop has sponsored the bicycle club and the flying Wheels Racing Team and participated in trade shoes. Tradition the business must tain is bicycle store. Item 2d is german restaurant in haze valley founded in 1993. Modeled after beer halls encouraged people to sit and eat together the restaurant is a worst house popular in europe. They provide jobs, food and sense of belonging to the valley in San Francisco. Restaurant prides the original knowledges that helped revitalize a neighborhood in the 90s and a Founding Member of the Small Business association. Business is not 30 dwreers is eligible for listing on the registry because it operate in the San Francisco for more than 20 years, contributed to the history and identity of San Francisco and if not included in the rej tree face a risk of displacement. Commercial lease prices increase said in the last decade increasing initial capitol based businesses entered the scene. Putting operators at risk of displacement. Listing on the registry could help them maintain the home. The core feature tradition the business must maintain is restaurant featuring german food. Item 2e wilcox frozen foods the business is a frozen Food Distribution company in the bayshore area found in the 1946. Wilcox was the citys first distributor of frozen food and a brood line distributor in the City Different types of products utilized by Grocery Stores and other large retail toed Service Chains and businesses. The businesses customers include small entrepreneurs, restaurants and hotels and nonprofits. Wilcox donated food to shelters, food banks and pantries. Wilcox maintains a collection of vintage equipment dating to the 1950s. Today wilcox stands out the longest frozen food distribute using union labor only. Core feature tradition is distributor of brood lined foods. All 5 met criteria for the registry and received a positive recommendation from the Historic Preservation commission. Staff recommends adding them to the registry and drafted 5 resolutions. A motion in support of the businesses framed a motion in favor of the resolutions. Note that the 5 resolutions have the wrong date august 8. You did not have a meeting that day the will resolutions samples up loaded a Small Business web page include the correct date of august 22nd. Thank you. This concludes my presentation and happy to answer questions there are representatives in the room and possibly online withhold like to speak during Public Comment. Thank you. Rick. Is there commissioner comment . Ill start. The grill is just one of the San Francisco institutions you know because of the sam spade connection we had dinner there about 2 or 3 months ago. And delightful experience and felt connected to san front history. Happy to see their inclusion and i learned from director tang that nomad cycleary was the source of her first bicycle. Thats delightful. The bridal is the place you go a rite of passage. Im a male it does not matter. Thats community. You go there upon chop it up it is a space for community to be and they work with you. This is why Small Business is know penitentiary. People cant afford used dresses. See what you got. Not lay away like kmart it is community. And johns grill you said i used to work at the front desk in union square. You get a stiff drink and people like me go there it was a crowd and everybody treated you well. The german i cant pronounce i want to say in San Francisco i say as a kid you need your fast pass and you can travel the world. They gave me a big buddha beer. It was an experience that only in San Francisco i can afford to go to germany without going. And wilcox the history is dope. And i pass by this place every day and i never know what it was. I got ton a true San Francisco business that has union labor since day one. I learned something. Thank you for Small Businesses and everything you do. Im interested to learn what vintage distribution equipment is urg Public Comment. Okay. I dont see other commissioners speaking well go to Public Comment. Are there Public Commenters . People want to make a line on the side. And take turns that is fine. You are not obligated if you like to we would love to hear from you. On the basis of the amazing jacket alone. Approximate because makes me very happy to be in front of you. I dont know the decision but will still im very pleased to be here and thank you very much. From the staff and the people. Im honored. Thank you. Other Public Comment. There are no commenters on the lining. Public comment is closed. Commissioners do we have a motion . I move to approve all. I second. Motion by commissioner ortiz and herbert. Commissioner carter. Aye. Commissioner herbert. Aye. Commissioner huie. Aye. President lag laguana. Yes. Motion passes unanimously. Commisioner william ortizcartagena next item. Resolution in support of castro theatre the commission will hear presentation on future plans for the castro theatre and may take action on a resolution in support of the project. Presenting we have casey and mary from another Planet Entertainment. And we hear a presentation if you plan on making comment you can fill out speaker carts they are on the table by the door. In the Public Comments we received so far, there are inquiries how this item came to be and some expressed concern. I like to turn the temperature down a bit. And address these occurrence and hopefully set mindses at ease. We ask for this presentation because of how important the castro theatre is to the hundreds of Small Businesses in the castro business district. Small Business Community has been struggling for years it was before the pandemic and it did in the help. 37 of the store fronts in the castro are vacant. Business activity in the upon main quarter declined 25 . And the immediate vicinity of the theatre sales tax revenue declined by 50 . Years ago group Castro Merchants Association had 350 members now it has 125. You than many Small Businesses in the castro are barely hanging on. We know the theatre is critical to their survival. We invited another Planet Entertainment to learn about their plans through a specific lens. What would the proposals money for the Small Business community and how can we all Work Together to make sure the theatre will be here for many years to criminal another Planet Entertainment agreed to present and thank them for appearing. For those of you with questions about the resolution that we posted we prepared a draft resolution in support before any meeting we contemplate a resolution may be made that draft resolution is a place holder. Standard practice and common procedure for us. Under the law we are required to post possible resolutions 72 hours before the meeting. Once the meeting begun we can and do make changes based on what we learned or go another direction. I want to reassure everyone the document is a place holder not an caution the commission made a decision how to proceed. This commission fully understands that the castro theatre is a legendary source of community. A Cultural Institution and inspiring beacon to the lbgtq community all over the world. We understand the personals of Community Support in order to have a sustainable business. This is an Amazing Group of commissioners who will ask Great Questions and we believe that public dialogue is critical to Building Trust and hope to play a constructive role in the dialogue about a treasure that is important to San Francisco Small Business community. With that casey, you have the floor. Excellent. Thank you, president laguana and commissioners for your time and consideration. For another planet renovation plans of the castro theatre. I want to thank the commission and office of Small Business for your support of venn use throughout the city during the pandemic. Im joined by mary or Senior Vice President and dan our vp of business a faris. Another planet is a local, inspect Small Business employing 50 full time staff. Thank you for this opportunity. In january of this year we announced a partnership with the ordinance of the castro theatre that another planet would assume operations of the theater. We will share a video highlighting who we are, the challenges this historic and renovation plans. We have been engaging with Community Members supervisor mandelman and local merchants and more since our announcement. There are concerns to be discussd and worked on we hear support from Community Members including neighboring merchants. Supporting of ad a and queer youth. A clothe of ours visited and 75 merchants were supportive of plans. An active, tloifing and vibrant castro theater brings foot traffic which will assist in Public Safety and increased Economic Activity at bars, restaurants and shops. Since the upon independent open in 200430 new store fronts opened in that neighborhood of at the core, venues and all Small Businesses are reflection of their community that is how the castro theatre bottom hope and queer culture throughout the world and another planet intends for the theatre to continue to be that Community Gathering space and venue the neighborhood can be proud of. We will go to the video and be available for questions after. Thank you. Cartagena no audio. And they have the connection to it their grandparents built space and uncles grew up here. This theatre has meaning for many communities. Not least which the lbgtq community. Cinema loving communities. And as a baseline it has this incredible cultural meeting the castro is timothys master work. The problem with the way it is now in the 70s, there was arc legality of peeling paint and damage. Somebody did not know how to reper se it proper low they intentionally covered it with the dark and merky, muddy color that got darker. They obscured it you cant tell the glory of the original is. We intend to bring it back. Timothys original design intent is when we are trying to preserve and recreate. What seems to be a logical choice as consequence when is it is caused the de lamination of the original finish. Chunks have faulten off you see that the house lightos you see chunks of white plaster. Colors that timothy used are historic Prevention Team took paint samples, there are vivid blue and beautiful reds and the upon different jewel tones that you cant see now. We will bring the colors back and let the design come out and get to be seen by another generation. [music] over the last 19 years another planet grown from 5 people to 50 people. And we are all local. We live all over the bay area and what we have done is become the largest, inspect Concert Company in the United States. My history with bill graham presents then another planet is that we have locked at Old Buildings and whether in los angeles or the theatre in San Francisco, the fox theatre in oak land the bill gram civic, we have restored a lot of theatres. To make them some of the finest theatres in the country and the world. Every theatre has different aspects the fox theatre was closed for 42 years. And here is really one of the truly great 3,000 seat theatres in the country. We are proud of our track record in addition to doing activities such as outside layouts brought in millions of dollars to the park district. We have taken each theatre and said what can we do to make this a better theatre and make this a place that the Community Wants to go to. The castro is the home of lbgtq sin in. The birth play of Film Festivals. The launch pad for most of our queer cinema hero careers. This venue is vital to that spacech we need the castro to be renovated for us to bring out our passion with accessibility. The thing we want to see change the most in that venue. We are excited see plans that include accessibility formulated by another planet t. Is our priority with this venue. Otherwise we want to see the doors open. We want the castro theatre in use for the community and the businesses that surround the venue, we want to see that place thriving because it is a jewel of the San Francisco theatre. Im thrilled somebody will put that love in it we need to ensure it stands for the next 100 years special our commit they are making now enis beautifully restore side something we are happy about. I dont think you can that imagine what this theatre would look like when restored unless of course you were there in the 50s or 60s before it started to become degraded. So it is hard to visualize what a transformation would be to bring it back with original intent. One of the exciting things we discovered the chandelier was install in the 1937 and manufactured by phoenix bay. They are around. They have the original blueprints and we are really thrilled work with them. They are going to restore all of the original Lighting Fixtures and bring them back to their historic state. Including the chandelier the wiring is bad. There is one light that turns on the wench does not work. We want to come back and bring the chandelier back and honor timothys vision for this space. And coined the phrase the flewinger glow we want to bring back. We want to restore the finance. Make sure where gold leaf or copper or daoism leaf we are true to those finance. That we honor his drawings he left behind and restored the space to that glory. Hose financ. That we honor his drawings he left behind and restored the space to that glory. The blade which are 2 things the blade is one of the most iconic theater blades in the world. Says, welcome to the castro the whole district. No, we did not turn it in an electronic marquee. It does not fit. What we were doing. So we tried to honor the past and yet move forward to the future. Obviously, a good example of that is that the movie screen will be better than ever. No one who walked in will than it is a different movie screen. Nobody will know that the air congress and air flow is different. They will foal it. It has to be a living, breathing building. It cant be a museum. We want people to come in and go my god the popcorn suspect great. There is more room. Front lobby will not be as tight as it was. The change that everyone will notice, i think we have to say it out loud is changing from a slopped orchestra floor and it is a steep slope. To a series of steps, flat tiers or trays or terraces. The reason is that the live music business for a demographic is best supported with standing room events the fox theater utilized that approach with success. However we are empathetic to the groups who are concerned about the experience of coming in here and saying, a seated event a cinema, classic movie. We are working hard to make sure that experience is gracious and comfortable and safe and equal for people with disabilities. Would it be differents . Yes. I believe through rigorous design and study we are getting the site lines right. Have comfortable seating. We will have silent air and heating distribution through the tiers and people will think it is a successful experience in seeing a classic phil. Idea of the theatre currently could accommodate wheel chair access to the last row of the orchestra level that is not promote. Not up to the standardses that we want to present to the world in 2023. We are excited about providing access to the stage. To the front of the stage, the dressing rooms. People will circulate in this phase. We are excited the programming opportunity resulting from the renovations to the theatre. Already. We received inquiries from groups and nonprofits to [inaudible] excited about [inaudible] along side the [inaudible]. The changes to the increase upon for patrons with disabilities [inaudible]. The events will use the castro [inaudible] along side open floor options that allow for table feeding or standing receptions to funds raise. There is a group that supports the organ we met the organist who is passionet about this project and his role. They have raised a significant amount of money to purchase a new organ i saw pictures it has all the bells and whistles. Tell be better then and there wham is here now. That effort proceed. Our job a larger organ and heavier and needs a better lift to lift it up. And needs a more gracious way to close the stage when it goes down somebody coming out for a discussion does not fall in the pit. We are excited. And so is david the organist. The family have been good stewards for the first hundred years and another planet understand the stewardship for the bodiesing and the community and they will also be good stewards of this building for the next had beened everhuman beinged years. People feel close to the castro. It is endearing. The Film Community feels close there were important films that. Played here and the theatre opened the doors to unique programming for the community. We want to continue that tradition and add to it. We want to make it a viable enterprise and maintain what the theatre has been. We want to show film, we want to do comedy. We want to do live entertainment. Community events. This is an e formous responsibility. I feel a sense of privilege and honor to work on this. And i feel an obligation to get right. There are people who are deeply in love with this building for all the best reasons in the world. So we are working hard to make sure everyone can walk in a year and save, wow. This is really fantasticir will get a cox sdpal see virtgo and feel it retains the magic of the architect and also of the deep cultural layers this exist in this building which have to be honored as well. Thats it we are available for questions. Commissioners, do we have questions . Vice president. Thank you, another planet team for coming before us and thank you to everyone in the audience for join thanksgiving conversation. Since you know this like all everybody that come before our commission of the first question we usually question is what has the process been in engaging the corridor the stake holders and you know what has that listening process locked like. Is there more plan and where are you with that . I than there is a lot of stake holders and the arab Film Festival been there as well. And you know i would love to know making sure we are covering the basis with out reach. If you could spoke to that a bit. Im mary with another Planet Entertainment. We have joined the Castro Merchants Association. The chamber of commerce. Golden gate chamber as well and had several meetings with the merchant associations and one on one meetings with merchants and neighbors on our corridor. Since i see that the seats question is the one we will get into. I mean my memory of the venue is going with my grandma to the arab Film Festival every year. What will your solution be. Temporary seating for certain events . How are we planning i know this may be ahead. Im scared well not as a community be able to afford that venue for this anymore. Thats a big question i have. For the projections that may team ahead but thats the questions the community will be asking. Thats a good question i appreciate you are bringing it up. We worked closely with our Architect Team and the folks on our theatre Consulting Team and we are looking for a temporary chair that is can stack and be storeod site so we dont pay for transportation costs to bring chair in and out. And we operate several theatres that rely on a temporary seating chair basis so we got rather good at installing seats quickly and efficient low so tell not be out of the realm or cost prohibitive. Okay. I will save my time. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner carter. Thanks for coming to present. Plans look exciting just to see what you are planning to do. I think my concerns are a disconnect with the community from a lot of the letters that will im receiving. Regarding the plans. Ir think my question is, have you been able to have the Planning Department and Historic Community Committee Review the plans . Yet . Hello im dan Vice President of business ash faris of another planet. Yes we have been engaging with the sf heritage and other historical groups. As well as Community Members. There will is loud voices who have been hearing from. We are confident overnight next soon the next 40 days before the hearing we will have made enough headway with everyone we feel that they will be comfortable with when we are dook in plans of the theatre. You have not been able to receive anything from the San Francisco planning deputy or historic committee. Im sorry what do you mean receive . To review the plans. Im sorry of so we have our first hearing on october fifth. Is that what you are asking. Im sorry. Thank you. Commissioner huie. Thank you. Thank you very much for presentation. I guess you know for meet way im looking at this, is not i dont know. I feel like its not so much just this one topic. It feels like we are looking at the venue changing from a theatre to now a concert venue. Thats the thing that did not seem addressed in the video. I appreciate the Historic Preservation and the efforts to be made make things ad a accessible and accessible to everyone to keep the theatre going. But i do feel in San Francisco we have a huge loss of film venues and this would be another film venue that creates a space for you to have real conversations and like a safe space to talk about things for people to be sxeen heard. Which is when film brings that is different then and there a concert. I think inform talking about it and that frame i guess im wondering where is the conversation about the importance of film and the importance of film for many communities where for me growing up, i did not see anybody in the movies or on tv or anywhere that locked mriek me or had the same experience as me. When i did i literally cry in the my car for 2 hours. And that was from a movie. That was like somebody said you exist in this world. You know not to be so like i get very big about this. But i think this is the crux of where peoples fears are. That there will be no space for them to be seen in a permanent way. How is this addressed within your conversations . Thank you, commissioner. I think absolutely thats a huge concern and heard very ludlow from the supporters of the community on the experience of that. I think we are we have said repeated low we are committed to maintaining a film presence at the theatre including longterm relationships with sf films, frame line is a partner and i think that you know we are bringing in more repertoire film before the construction shut down for the theatre. It is sloulg concern we hear and committed to do it. I think the one of the key aspects that people forget is there will still be seats we have different seats more comfortable and gracious seats with arm rests. Film will be a part of it and mary said we got a team that does almost at installing and breaking down seats quickly. It is a concern i think that it it is also in tandem the castro theatre has been a rental venue for a decade. Concerts in the castro is not new. There have been concert in this theatre for over a decade we are making the space flexible to be sustainable and have a viable Business Model. One of the things that would make me feel better, perhaps, i dont know if it matters whether i feel better. One of the things they could see would be may be a cam parrison in terms of programming what does that programming look like now in terms of percentage. And what would the programming look like in your future plans. Ultimately it is not the seats we would love to have seats for people to watch to have lecture and talks and see films. Wham does that programming skew going to look like in the future so we have the fears reassured. I will follow up with you later this week i got a coworker working on the past 10 years of programming at the castro and doing a deep dive and categorizing i can report back on what that percentage has been the past 10 years as well as what the programming has been since january for comparison. That would be awesome. Then the people could will sdwhied is that threshold look like for the community. What are the types of things we want to see. You know and what are the things that as people in San Francisco as well. It is it serves the neighborhood for sure and service the city and the whole region if not much broader. I think that would be helpful. And i probably have other questions i will go for it. You are fine. Another piece is think mechanisms for accountability. Most want to see these but what are metrics approximate and measurements and mechanisms are you willing to put in accomplice to make sure you are doing what we are talking about today . You know in front of the community. So. Gi think those conversations are still early with the stake holder groups and we are developing those. You know we want to be a part of the community and working with partners. Wee are in the early stages. One more piece this. Is something that as sounds like tell be a big project. I would love to see who you bring on board in terms of leadership. And for the project and who you have for voices in terms of like im not just saying this because of the one project im noticing that oftentimes when the opportunity is given to hire that opportunity im not saying anything new. It persists i node to say it. Perhaps giving thought to what true representation could look like on this project. All the thing this is lead in diversity showing not quite the most diverse place. So it would be wonderful if there were people went project who bring voice from thes community and not just as an out reach component but leadership and have some power in what happens. In 2023 woolly be closing for conduction for 9 montes and working on developing who the team be. Thank you. Commissioner. I love renovating the theatre and become to the original splendor looks beautiful in the film you presents. Im a member of the san front neighborhood Theatre Foundation. That works to preserve neighborhood theatres. But im not paid by them. The theatre has 1, 400ish feet. I wonder how many seats will be in the finished product . And seeing the illustration for the first time it looks like a different set up. Y and i think it seems like there is room for every type of entertainment there. But just how are the seats brought in and set up and is that going to be a huge expense for another Planet Entertainment. Such an expense that you might not bring in as many seats as you like. As a member of the lbgtqia community, i know it is theatre also has cent ammal value to me and huge low important in terms of representation of my community throughout the years. And serving as a place to really broadcast that community. International and nationally. So i hope that your programming will include and continue to include that population. I want to hear more about the functionality. Design is always coupled with functionality. How are you going to fit all those people that want to see a movie and programming wise; will your programming be laid out for 12 months. How many films will you show. Great you include lots of types of entertainment. How will the Film Community be include . Um we are still on the search for the perfect seat that is manage we are searching far and wide there are great vendors out there. We are still trying to find the perfect seat. If you have a recommendation we are all ears. Until we finds that it is hard to really say how many seats will be on the orchestra level. We kinds of anticipate about 100 to 150 seats left because we are upgrading the seats. These seats were not made for 2022 body sizes. This will be a comfortable and gracious seat we need more room. In terms of practical storage and set up we will be building a mall annex kinds of stage left of the theatre there is a boil are room we will turn into a Proper Storage area for the chairs to be stored. And you know we have pencilled it out for chairs to be set up with the crew we participate it to be 1400 dollars for chairs to be set up. And dem pending on programming they can be out for several weeks at a time. So but our programming typically we look to about you know i think 3 month advance window. Temperature is hard to map out the entire year at a time. Obviously, we have longterm clointss we know frame line will be in june. We know we want to show milk on june second there are staples we will be focused on. But i think it is a little early to say now exactly how that programming will be laid out and percentage to film and percentage to lbgtq, those are commitments we have shown and intend to keep. Great. Thank you. I am concerned about the number of bodies that will fit in the theatre. I know it sells out like for the sound of music the sing along sound of music it happened every year for 25 years or so. I guess i would like to see a concrete plan from a functional perspective. Thank you. Commissioner cartagena. Thank you, president and thank you for the presentation. I want to say you are an example of haa mall business can become i love the dialogue and if we are a little of questions nuanced it is because we are proud of and you what you budget some of the dialogue with my commissioners answers the questions. I got caught off guard i did in the feel this was in the Small Business commission purview. Im getting more grasp about that. One of the things capacity and occupancy and the impact to the local merchant regarding traffic and parking. The study on this impact and also i think the occurrence probably and you we are the stewards and people who have concerns we are all stewards of the city. City has been great. Thats why people come. My mom stayed and came to San Francisco in a city like this. And im like side tracking one of my mentors were a gentlemen was if in gay upon films. Owned the knob hill theatre on bush street. And think about the [inaudible] here is this exgang member from the mission with chantels owner and operator of knob hill theatre. All of us are stewards questions like that because im sure know the demographic and the numbers you need to do to recoop the build out and improvement. That is the concern may be for us regarding Small Business saturday dpafk changes and theed Small Businessos the corridor to not sustain the clientele that is marketed to. That would be a shift in community. And everybody here are stewards we are concerned about shift. Now we know we needing progress but to be included in the process is what makes San Francisco, San Francisco i know you are open to that and i think that is the concern but great to hear you are early on in the process. Right. Or reaching out like for me i love to hear from the merchants. Their ft. Feedback what they say. Their occurrence. Again im also really proud of yall. You are wanting to invest in community and make this for the next grand kids my grandpa was on the commission and made everybody here come up with a plan that you know does make everybody happy photocopy it mix one side happy we are not doing it right. Get enough people pissed off they foal they lost a little. I want to hear freshman Public Commentil have more questions we appreciate your presentation and time and efforts. Thanksgivingment i had the opportunity to talk to different people in the community Small Business owners opponents of the proposal. Proponents. And you know i think speaking for myself, hoping to facilitate more dialogue and clarity and transparency so we can collective low wrap our heads around what is happen to a building that is more than a building and has cultural resonance not just for the castro but the city as a whole. Through talk with people, there were i guess questions. You know this is an a legal proceeding i dont to pin you down. It is a Friendly Exchange here but you know just the a handful of questions that came up a lot when i talked to peoplism didnt know if you felt comfortable speak all i can do is ask if if you north comfortable, thats acceptable. One question a lot had was is this a lease. An operating agreement . Does another planet have an ownership stake what statute nature of what is happening here . Im not going to answer the question i dont know why it is relevant. Why does it matter we other operators and proud of this opportunity. We worked hard with the owners to put this together. And the reason why we were able to wage this patient inship because they know we are right stewards for the building. They know what is happen to the business because people are not coming to see film the way they used to they new they needed a different operator xo understands the community and the building. For us we did not look at it as a Community Center we locked at it as a private transaction we are getting a different feedback from the communities than when we expected. Okay. You know i understands that. The upon points of view from the commission is hai think we would really like to encourage as much collaboration and coming together and conthe building as possible. Because so many Small Businesses dedependsant on being successful. We need you to be successful and the theatre to be successful and persevere. We need to be here for you hundreds of years more tht future. You know i appreciate your engagement. I guess at some point typeset seems to me the id like to see a bridge to the community and real engagement with the community on the concerns. I recognize the business interest and contranlts and wonder that the relevance is. You mentioned the Cultural Impact of the theatre sort of supercedes all. I imagine that the cultural value of the building is part of the Business Model you are hoping the communities will engage is that fair to say . 100 . Yea. So and another concern i guess come up the other commissioners has relay third degree is whether it sounds like from the outside looking in that the movie portion of the programming is potentially it is harder to recoop your investment in. And i think one thing i have a question about is just looking at the video it is a substantial victim. It appears on the surface. And i suspect you know im going off reading newspaper article busy this. Sounds like there is deferred maintenance. Could you walk us through a bit what is the again to the degree you feel comfort. Acknowledge for everybody in the room that another planet is our guest tonight and we are encouraging dialogue. Will but to the degree you feel comfortable can you tell us about the costs that are involved in what we are looking at in terms of the Capitol Investment to get the theatre back up, to a well main tained place and take it in the future . Hi. Thank you for that. Will democracied of deferred upon maintenance in this space and the things we highlighted in the vo the damage done to the ceiling putting the wrong arc a poxy. You see plaster ceiling but we did not show the plaster above the ceiling needs a baptist repair there have been water intrusion over the years. There is no mechanical system. There is no air flow in the space at all and the day of costrid is concerning you want people to change out air flow. There is no heating system. We have done a significant amount of money in repairs for Electrical Service that needed to be upgraded and made more modern. I mentioned in the video about the chandelier and upon upon one light bulb turnos and should not the turn it on again until it gets relamped. There are deferred maintenance you see why the naked eye and things behind the walls that need to be brought up to a comp tent level you are comfortable but brought up to code. Do you all told roughly what do you think we are looking at to get the theatre to where it should be the next hundreds years. It is several Million Dollars. Taking our compln off to the side if someone wanted to operate as is there are several Million Dollars work of work to bring the space up to what is appropriate. You know thinking about some of the challenges that occurrence the community has with respect to live eventses versus films. Are live events do they deliver a better return per day of use or night of use than a film in is it does it make it more viable as a business to cover the expenses. I think we are looking at having a diverse variety of programming. Of keepingly all the Film Festivals that have been using the space as casey mentioned. Adding in live concerts. But all add nothing comedy shows, pod cast, community events. Having the tiered seating area colby spoke to it our special events director. Hosting funds raisers for Community Groups in a way they can do an award show or an auction. Am it just having that flexibility of the space and the 8 to do a wide variety of programming. Is our path forward to making the space sussanable. Part includes film just not with the same frequency as it hen for the years prior to closing for covid. And so i heard members of Film Community and other members of upon communities express concern about changing the format and losing the seating and now it becomes economically not viable to do a film or a festival there. I also heard people talk about am nonprofit organizations that could potential low i gots first question you have, do you anticipate tell be more expensive to show a film than previously. Or this is a function of less revenue because less seats tell is more nuanced than that. We have the 606 seats in the balcony. That will not change. Fewer seats on the orchestra floor. With our proposal. Again we dont know what seat we will have i cant tell you the number. I think. That this space is an unpopular thing people dont like it but it statute truth. The castro theatre has been under valued for may be the past decade. But if you look at the 1400 seat theatre in San Francisco the palace of fine arts theatre, even the war memorial which is smaller. We do events at all of the different spaces. The castro theatre was just a rental house where people got handed the key and where you govern the rent was low you were not getting support so much with the fee. Prices need to go up in 2022, my milk is more expensive a cost of living adjustment we go through. Getting things up to market rate. I think that we have kept all of the Film Festivals this year honored the 2019 process and trying to work with folks to determine how do we go about putting increase in a way that does not damage your ability to stay a viable Film Festival or nonprofit. Along those lines, i know there are signature eventses that the theatre does, for example. Beach of christ and the silent festival campus. To what degree is another planet. Ir mean, have you committed to extended agreements with these or working toward extended agreements. We are working toward extended agreements with some of the parties and working with a Nonprofit Arts Organization so that we have a mechanism to off set cost for groups feel they cant meet the increased expenses. Thats encourage. So. The upon nonprofit portion of this do you think do you think they will bridge the gap here that you are talking about. Yea. Our intention to keep the Film Festivals that call the castro their home and Community Groups, we plan on continuing to work with those groups. Even the most successful venue in the world cant stay busy 365 days. We walked knowing how terrific for us we have this built in clientele that is going to help us with programming. These legacy businesses and the Film Festivals we work with that is an important part of our Business Model moving forward. And then, you know manage that came up a lot is this they are seek memorandum of understanding or a sort of affirmative promgs from another plan that he approximate x, y, z will happen. My assumption that it is negotiatable and there are ways to back stop that. Im not i want to be clear im not familiar with the details of this. My concern is larger to the health of the Small Business community. To the extent that getting that consensus and put thanksgiving stuff behinds so we move forward and start to build the productive rep i think the neighborhood and community needs. Do you think another planet is open to conversations around that . What is the current thinking. Were open to conversations. I personally going out and meeting the neighbors. Im glad to be part of the Castro Merchants Association. We met with the Community Benefit district. We want to be Good Neighbor and part of the community and support the otherful businesses that are on our street in our corridorch and other nonprofits are also serving folks in the area. And you know Something Else that a lot of people are looking for a commitment to hiring queer staff and Castro Community to strengthen ties between the theatre and the Community Organizations. I guess i want want to reiterate that concern and thats something the commission would support as a whole. Does this sounds consistent where you are headed. We feel we have a diverse staff but open to meeting with the stake holders in the area and working on a path forward that everybody feels comfortable be. Okay. And am does another planet have00 eye know the mezzanine area was available to Community Organizations at a lower cost. Have you had discussions about continuing this program . Or that approach to events . We have done search funds raise sdpers utilized the mezzanine space and we will continue to do this as well. Okay. And i guess and another point of concern for the community is the private eventses and whether they will increase in frequency and decrease the publics availability of the space. Do you have anything that you would like to share how you are looking at private eventses or think burglar them as you move forward in terms of frequency or how you see the space. When we did the drawings that shows the tables the round stable in our head that was funds raiser layout. Not the focus. Okay. I think now would thank you so much. Honestly thank all of you. And i appreciate you willing to entertain our questions and may have more after Public Comment of the but i think now we will go to Public Comment and hear had they have to say. You want mow to call them . Call by name. Usually they get up. Thats fineful just line up. It is okay i have everybodys name i will read it in the order. So tonight because of how much Public Comment we have we are limited to a minute because we do have no no 40 minutes you went on for you 40 minutes and you want to limit us to a minute each. Excuse me. Insulting the public. All of us up here are volunteers in have to get home to take care of children. You should have cut off your own questions you rambled on. You let them go on forever this. Is a sham. You know what i will tell you what i doll i will meet you in the middle. 2 minutes. Why dont touch me. Stay away. Stay away. Emno mood for your germs im trying to preserve quorum. And i should not have this conversation but im having this conversation with you. Is 2 minutes acceptable to you . Is 2 millions acceptable to everyone in the room . Im getting thumbs up on 2 minutes. We will go with 2 minutes. We are intdz in hearing everybody. And with that i will call the first name. Gerard costvip. Thank you im gerard the queer public historian one of the 15 bite National Parks service for the america theme study and advisor to the lbgtq context statement. I like to say first is the classic seating in the castro is not incidental it is not randzom. It is what defined by will defining characteric of the space. Tells you this is a movie theatre. That is crucial for the Historic Preservation commission come Planning Commission to address before this commission makes considerations. Second low, a key part of conversation is in the the building and not the programming no, sir the building the ways which that programming affectless the Cultural Heritage of the neighborhoods. Castro cease displacement of culture and when i hear another planet talking about bring nothing a new demographic or certain demographic, i know what they mean by that they mean rock concerts with straight people who get drunk and 1400 on the streets of the castro. According to the chronicle in 2019 they made 2. 9 on tickets for outside they dont qualify to be here. I urge you to with draw this resolution however it got here and recognize the city process of considering Historic Preservation and heritage that is first commission. I will call several names and if you can line upkeep this moving efficient leave. Michael, matthew and steven bracko. Apology fist i mispronounce. Im asking you to delay the vote im going to stop. Timer is not work i need the timer so i know what is going on. Here please. Here. This is city staff not the Planning Commission notes the board of spierz supervisors this is an important meet figure you limit me to 2 minutes im asking you to set the timer t. Is in the rocket science. I can set the timer and you can see it. Im sorry. I will set the timer and leave it on the table and you can see it. You are unprepared. Hi. Michael im asking to you delay the vote on the resolution. You have not given the community enough time to get here. And the fact that you tried limit us to a minute shame, shame, shame on all of you. It took 7 months for 8 to hold a town hall meeting. 7 long months of trauma. At that meeting, greg was not no one from the nassars there. The repairs are needed the nassars have been bad stewards of the accomplice they have not invest in the it. We need town halls your resolution using the plural term that held one. We had a scream for it. If many of us had not battle with the liaison they were going to have us write our questions put them on slides and we vote on what was on the screen. Thats their Community Engagement if you dont scream at them. There was overwhelming opposition. I guess there were 10 people who spoke in favor of anything to do with the another planet. Upon 10 people and a good 800 that showed up 2 weeks ago. Finally, lets save the seats inside that theatre. And i will point to the lack of film programming in 7 months. That another planet has not done. Please delay your vote. Thank you. Matthew. Thank you i appreciate the chance to address you. Im native of san pran this is the first time ive been in the building that was not a party. This issue got me out of work and here. As a resident of the castro i have concerns about the slow you mud slide of bad decisions which ends up different from the beginnings. I feel as though the engagement with the community thus far has been vague. Noncommittal. Sometimes insulting. And i have gone through everything available. So im asking for ap e to start being precise. Put it in writing dont say they are committed or interested or think it is nice. It is business. Where is the plan . Another point i want to make is being in San Francisco so long i have seen everything get more expensive. And ap ements this for a certain demographic. To be castro theatre does everything in the video except serve rock concerts for 2535 who will not sit in a chair and require they stands. Thats the only group not getting served now. The communities and pod casts can be done as is with new paint, new mechanicals. It does not serve people hospital to stand at rock concerts who 25 to 35 are not in that neighborhood they come in from out of the city. And what do they want from Small Businesses . Fast food and liquor. They are not there to buy things. They want entertainment. So if we are making the castro street and Entertainment District this is a perfect idea thank you. Steven. Hi. Im steven bracko a castro resident and mfbt cultural district. Im here to talk about procedural low how this got here. Thanks to your commission on friday afternoon we were sudden an e mail exactly made aware of this meeting if not for that we would not have known this was happening. Was it august 2 weeks ago they had a town hall and did in the bring up the fact they were having this meeting at the town hall. That would have been a great opportunity for them to be engaging with the community. They did not mention it at the meeting there is a handsful of people here and im sure more would come here we had to scramble to get people here and im only one we have in that can speak better than me about this subject. I would move you please, at least move this to a different date so they can speak with other groups and as gerard mentioned ap e is not a mall business in their vo they mentioned how learning they are. Im peter, im executive director of the nonprofit castro theatre. Organization of people who love the castro theatre and concerned about preserving the theatre and the programming that has served its community in San Francisco so well. We ask the commission not to adopt a resolution for another planet for the castro thor they are designed to make the castro the only venue in San Francisco capable of showing films in all formats to large audiences to make it a shell of the former self. A beautiful shell we hope but still a shell of the former self. In longer an appropriate home to film or festivals and not a Gathering Place and haven for San Francisco lbgtq community. Plans include ripping out seats on the orchestra floor. Seats where thousands of residents found a haven the last 100 years, thousands more have enjoyed the castros atmosphere. More than sick,000 lovers of the castro theatre have signed a pel suspicion opposing the plans. And why 100 artists film directors and actor and musicians and authors declared support for the efforts to keep the seating of the castro as it was conceive in the 1922 bite architect timothy. There are dozens of movie palace in the United States that are succeeding as multiuse spaces including the paramount in oak lands and in los angeles. Presenting concerts, films and other events without having destroyed the floor and seating that were ints gravel to their vision for their building. Mosts of us heard about this meeting yesterday. We have not had the time to present evidence of the damage ap e plans to inflict. Sir. Thank you. Thank you for your questions. Thank you ape for being here expect listening. Im daved former film programmer long time castro audience member. I sat through that video a. M. Shown twice and timothy built a cinema. The castro theatre as a Community Space and beacon and church for the Film Community and serving an International Audience is rooted in the identity and function as a cinema. If you want to restore the low let the projectors runful full are statteled bite anger over this plan to convert the castro understand that in memory we lost the red vick. Lost the bridgeful lost the illuminated in. Clay and we lost the embark dareo on the nonprofit front Yerba Buena Center for arts and San Francisco museum of modern art dismanuald and destroyed their film programs. 91 of us are against change we are for a balance live event in cinema the castro had been doing. Ape is clear they want another fox tloert in San Francisco we dont need a fox theatre we. Need a castro theatre. Thank you. Im adam a member of the Queer Community and live in the castro. Im very used to seeing Companies Give us lip Service Without action. And a lot of that video felt like that. A lot talking about the community and how important and talking about how they did not know it was a Community Space. It was making a place wheel chair accessible and adding stairs and may be another ramp in the back if that is the case why could we not have the ramp and keep the seating. Im skeptical of ape for everything they said here there are contradictions and uncomfortable when they did not answer your question the fact they did in the answer is worrying. It is the fact they know it makes more moncompetence know this is the reason they want to take out the chairs but dont want to say it out loud. That is few testify reflected in the communities. Thank you. Any other Public Comment . Hello. Richard correlo im City Employee i made a presentation before. I want to make it clear im here for this item as a resident im not on the books for the entirety of this agenda item. That said, i wanted to let you know that upon this exact thing help in the san diego i worked for north park business improve am district a theatre vacant for 20 years. Took 10 years to open with seats in tact. Itom upon raand play and movies. And few years later live nation they got hold of the theatre and took out the seats. And from that point on i heard about fights and a stabbing and the nature of the community and of the tloert changed. I was in communication with my friend and said how much did this affect the thor. He said. It changed the character of the interior. He said we lost the movie palace and gained an event space. And said there are ways to do it where you can done easier if you want to bring it back. Inspect san diego they created retaining walls back filled with sand and gravel and put thin slabs to the floor and became a book store. But i would ask you today not to vote on this. I think upon what will people are concerning and i think this is important. The community to attends the meeting and i want disclosure i did sends an e mail to the castro cultural district to let them know this was on the agenda. I dont know if the communities knew. I dont think the out reach to the community was done properly. Thank you. Sir. Go ahead. Commission could none of us. Im matthew i put my name in the box but i did not get called. I have been a resident of the castro for 30 years. And i was at the meeting 2 weeks ago attended by 6 to 800 people who were overwhelmingly against removing the seats. No one here and no one at the castro is against a diverse use of the space or renovation of chairs architect ral landmark we were against ripping out the intangible sacred seats that create a congation of queer people and film lover come now turned to a concert venue with film as an after thought. Sort of did not answer whenments to do a show who will pay for the price of moving the seat from thes theatre, back in the theatre. How will people going to small queer productions afford the ticket prices. Earlier commissioner ortiz made the difference with bicycle shop and bridal shot not a kmart. Why a multiMillion Dollars beshg low based company is here in a Small Business venue without all the information you need to make a decision. I urge you not to make a decision on this resolution without having answers to the questions that ape was not able to answer this evening. Thank you for your time and service to this commission. Thank you. Is there other Public Comment on line or on the phone we have 6 Public Commenters on the phone. Please, proceed. Has the commission considered the resolution understands this is in the about a single business, this is in the about a building. This is about every single Small Business in the castro this benefits from the Successful Operation of the castro theatre the bars issue restaurants, nail salons and coffee shops it will help the businesses and address the castro high [inaudible] occupancy rate 21 . [inaudible] the castro needs the tloert to be successful. Small business ordinance were excite when they heard because they realized the opportunity that creates foot traffic in the castro. We were excite body additional programming appeal to a younger, diverse lbgtq consumer in the neighborhood. They are supporting our Small Businesses and the future of of the castro. A message for the sake of [inaudible] the castro dont make this an all or nothing proposition. They are a patriot family with a patriot business the castro theatre is in the public low owned. Another planet walks they could find a deal with live nation or crunch gem or sell it or take the tax write offs as others in the castro do. [inaudible] im heather rip loyal from the Art Deco Society of california a bay area nonprofit been around since the mid 80s. Can you hear me. Thank you very much for letting mow speak and i want to point out a couple of things. That the ape has not received any city approvals or backing of Historic Preservation committee that is to come. And i hope you will are well aware of the concern that is when we have been talking about and ape is also reiterate it is headquarter in the berkeley. And im confused why we are here. Why they are coming before this committee. It it is not a small believes in any way, shape or form. They exceeded the revenue to be a Small Business based on your organization less thap 2. 5 million. And i want to reiterate the changing of the seats will change the nature of the bodiesing itself. Keep the seats there, with some many architects talked about only removing part of the seat so the historical value of the building is maintained. Of the art deco so sight of california believes this action is premature and continue or with draw this resolution. We are in support of restoring the theatre but there are issues yet to be resolved. Thank you. This is Jesse Stanford cochair of the Land Use Committee of the castro cultural district. Im speaking on behalf of the Community Stake holder coalition that come together since the beginning of the year and sent a letter to another planet regarding changes we like to make in the project should be in thanks for the e mail. Combh thats not what we need instead lbgtq community. We hope for a solution to the problem and looking forward to continuing the conversation, urge you to continue the issue or to vote, no on the resolution. Thank you very much. Thank you, next caller. Please. Im dylan a member of the [inaudible] community [inaudible]. Preservation is important and most cultural communal preservation. Ir appreciate that 8 monthses to restore thor in the castro with the [inaudible] but im not going to the castro because of the improved air im going [inaudible] i can see an old movie. And take the large amount seats [inaudible] [echo] [hard to understand]. Im jessica and i have been attending the castro since a child my mother took me to the sill 11 film fest and i was heart broken San Francisco lost so many movie theatres in the left 10 years. My concern with the plan in to a music venue. Looking at the fox and [inaudible] the fox theatre will be open for concerts 40 of the time from the next 3 mons from their website. No one has seen a movie at the fox. Am [inaudible] i agree the castro needs to be run better. Theater [inaudible] [inaudible] the theatre can be open every day of the week i have not heard [inaudible] to keep the theatre open at the previous 80 of the time [inaudible]. [inaudible] pod casts and comedy events which can keep the seats. [inaudible] there are musicians who will play [inaudible] the past 10 years of programming. Hay discussed bringing in gallonas and weddings i fill it see how closing a theatre for that would bring business to merchance the plan disasterous for Small Business entertainment. [inaudible] seating 1200 [inaudible] the cost prohibited to smaller businesses not to mention the lost of profit from up to 250 seats lost in the plan stated in the Community Meeting the other week. I want to see the castro restored but more use to Small Businesses without destroying the seat and it is movie palace. I want to touch on what the chair stated. Public discussion is important. But it took 7 months to get a Community Meeting. The next would be with planning and not this commission which was added [inaudible]. I recommend reject the resolution. Thank you. Thank you for your comment. Is there any other Public Comment. Proceed. Im gary. Can you hear me we can. Hi. Im a film maker and in the president of the Labor Temple Association where trying to keep this private building as a Community Center. Which is what the castro is. And yes, had concerns about accessibility. Especially for poor people and low income people and seniors who are on a limited beenful accessibility issue that is instead going to be fun it will bes drag if another planet makes us pay 25 to see a movie. Once in a blue moon. You know. And it seems like the whole thing is a drag. Another planet is a drag. The design looks drear and he draby. Why would you want a dreary taxi people in weddings and dreary banquets and taxiness. Like we need taxiness not guilty castro. Keep it you know i would not mind it being spruced up but dont mind the the you know feeling of history in the building. We dont need a dragy taxi place with taxi peoplism agree, it is catering toward a mall demographic. Has to stand up and go out and buy booze. And fast food. Please. Post no one resolution. Thank you. Thank you. Any other callers . Yes. Hello. Please, spreed. Hello im toby a residents of fillmore a queer activist. I want to reiterate that it it is [inaudible] we are having this hearing [inaudible] [inaudible] thank the commission for asking [inaudible] the thought questions. I agree with the observations the demographics are probably young people who dont share a lot of the cultural context that the Concern Program has. [inaudible] people coming in from outside. That will push neighborhood to further gentification. Another planet said the castro has been under valued. [inaudible] it is a beacon of queer history i recommend the commission reject the endorsement and [inaudible] plans and say i would like to see a stronger communication from the commission that another planet additional confirmations that more engagement and answers to the questions given. Thank you. Why next caller. Im mike murray. Im a gay resident of the castro. Im 34 years old and enjoy live music events. Tonight i have been described as the certain demographic an outside are someone who wants liquor a drunk and someone who is taxi. I am i consider this neighborhood to be my home. I love this theatre and the events it puts on. I would remind this group them queer people also enjoy live events not just movies. I think that you know this is an exciting proposition to have a local bay Area Business come in this neighborhood and invest in under utilized space. We could see the castro theatre economically viable in the way it is being operated. We could turn it in a night club like ruby sky or video arcade like the emporium or sit inspect for years like the box theatre. Instead we have a group that thes to turn it to a multiuse venue for a Diverse Group of castro resident and enjoy different events i like to second the comment this is not an all in or all or nothing proposal. That there should be some agreement that can be reached. Resistance to changes to the castro theatre who bring it upped is not the only path forward thank you. Thank you. Next caller, please. Good evening. Commissioner this is is kathrine im call nothing as a board member of the San Francisco neighborhood Theatre Foundation we have concerns about the project as proposed. This is a workable solution that satisfies all stake holders. Less impactful to the theatre and [inaudible]. Small Business Community better than what it is proposed. Like other specious we urge the commission to hold off on a vote especially on the upcoming hearing where more detail will likely come to light. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. There are no more caller. We are done with callers. Thank you. Commissioners did you have any commentses you wanted to make. Commissioner cartagena. Thank you for your input and feedback. I want to reiterate i upon dont understands why this is in front of our commission now. I think it should have been brought up when more Small Businesses were engaged thats in our purview. But im with you in spirit because mall business should not be penalized for being successful i want to be billionaires the feedback is crucial. I want to let you know, the castro is my sister neighborhood from the mission. Ip want to give you examples of things that worked prior. We had on yorkshire and 24 the theatre old york theatre that is a nonprofit community. Communities has access i understands you are for profit if it dont make money im not with temperature there the is alamo draft house. I know a lot of people the people that i consider brother and scientisters did in the like it but it worked. Brought traffic and activated a section of the mission this had been vac an for a long time. There is the tower in the granldz. That thats horrible the build suggest helpful way rotted down and vacant and been there since i was 15 that way. Im highlighting what can be done, when works. I think it is like we are all stewards. No one will get when they want. But i think am if you like have a bit more out reach i think people something pretty but dont want to be displaced. I think now is not an appropriate time for us to hear this in front of our commission at the moment. Thats all. Commissioner carter. I want to thank the casts Castro Community for coming out you are heard i graduated from mission high i will cut school and be in the castro. So. It is noise to hear you here today. I would like to see more of a meeting of the mindses with the another planet and the community. I want to hear more support of the community. Im skeptical but i want to see it but naive from the affects of it being a San Francisco nay and i have when new things come and the affects of that. I dont think we should make a motion im not sure why you are here. I would like to see more Community Support in a meeting of the mindses before we make a decision on this today. Okay. Other commissioner comments . Vice president zouzounis. Thank you for your time. You know another planet syrup came out of san frap Small Business i rescue moiz that. My family has the corner store cross from where bill grahams presents used to be. I understands the relationships that you have created in the city you cope your Small Business. You keep San Francisco close and i appreciate that. And for everybody else the Small Business commission we are here as a cond wit for conversations. My familys business is part of an industry that gets ridded bite police. We are talking about very different forms of oppressions we feel and electric of access to that is becoming San Francisco. I trot that i dont think we should be directing our anxiety are at our female public servants. I dont think this is the accomplice for this conversation. I think this you know we are all spends thanksgiving time and having this conversation together. Whether this came as a presentation or a draft resolution it is logistic questioning at this point. When we do moving forward is with all of us. I hope that by this time we come to that understanding of why we are here. And i agree i think that this needs to go through there are whole mall business questions we have not addressed yet like parking. As coming from the Retail Community we need people to be able to pull up in front of our business, deliveries and customers. I mean there is unaddressed questions i think that will relate to the corridor and the community that still need to be determined and i think that we have the to the continue having those conversations. Just with that, looking forward to bridging those whether the Small Business or Film Festival conversations. Thank you. Why thank you. Why commissioner herbert i want to say to ape thank you for being year. You guys are good at what you do. And this is San Francisco. The city we all love. And it is a city where the community is an person aspect of every part of doing business. And i just foal that we should post no one and feel confident that you guys can come up with a very Creative Program and a design that works for everybody and a few months seats they are less expensive i can combhup or put mull touch with somebody. This is an opportunity for everyone to come together exit think the Community Just wants to be heard and recognized as part of the processeen though it is in the a Community Center. I know im just saying i think i have confidence of that this can all work. In a positive way. And bring more ref mou to the castro and bring the theatre become to life and inclubhousive. I know you can do it and it will take more time to talk about it. Commissioner huie. Thank you for the comments. This i do see how this was i gus know a Small Business thing. We are all thinking about how our corridors and neighbors and our communities and all the things are shaped now. We are talking about it all the time. And i think you know the commercial corridor meaning like the space where we gather for all of our neighborhoods those are crucial. In creating community and crucial for our liveihood i see how this conversation is important. I think this conversation it was not upon i did not then and there was. Helping quite honestly. And but i do thank you for all of the comments now this is complete low on my radar and a conversation we are all having like in different accomplices, too. What do we want . This is a huge question for us now. I appreciate the fight you are giving and the perspective you bring to this. Because it is important. You know thinking about funds raisers and things, we have venues for those. I have been to plenty of funds raisers. We dont have that many venues for film. And thinking about like the affordability of film. Not blockbusters. Im not of course burglar a 4d experience we are talking about film. And conversations around that. So, you know to me i think there is Something Special about this conversation. There is something that we can open our minds around sxnldz thou important the period of time is. So. Thank you for you know having this on the agenda so we can have this conversation in the public light of day or whatever we are now. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. Commissioner carter. I think i would like to hear more from the Small Business in the castro to hear how they feel about this for mow as a restaurant owner, i think you know it has been great for people like us. I grew up eating in the castro and it has not been like this for a long time. How does what you guys dog to add that vibrancy back. I want to see it i would life to hear more from the Small Business communities there to hear how they feel about this. Thank you. Commissioner huie. Sorry. Im done. First, i like to thank everybody who took their time out of their day to come and thank another planet for sharing their plans with us. I know the conversations are tough and difficult. I know how emotionally invest weed are in communities and neighborhoods. And we love all of you. And we love this city. We do. And i think what im going to take ownership of the fact on why this it is on the agenda. First i said my opening remarks, this has this particular building has a large impact on the Small Business communities. In the Castro District has been suffering. Evening proceeding the pandemic. Steven add alps was former pedestrian Castro Merchants Association. When i joined the commission heave the president and would talk how difficult was the increase in vacancies. And we see them on Market Street on castro. And it it is a very concerning problem for those of us that want to see resilient and pro robust Small Business communities. And so as president you can put items on the agenda. Sometimes we put items on the agenda to learn. It is what a discussion item. We talk about them. And we try to learn and be better educated the 7 people on here that interact with so many of the Small Business community can be educated. Sometimes we think perhaps it may be helpful to add our voice and support. I want to say for those of that you called in that asked, the points and purpose of this hearing was about the Small Business communities as a whole. In the castro this is impacted. I dont want to get legalistic or argumentive. Under San Francisco code of Small Business is simple low 100 employees or less. The another planet would qualify arnold San Francisco code that is not why i call third degree meeting and not concerned about that and not really relevant to my decisionmaking process. What i think i have heard from the communities. You know the nice thing about having this on the agenda is it did inspire new conversations. And a number that reached out to me and want to thank everybody who reached out via phone to educate me. I did my best to help bring their questions to light. In a forum people felt comfortable talking because we know how the issues can be and can be difficult for anybody that is intersect with this to talk about it open low. I would say to another planet that i think you have more w to do in terms of out reach with the community and building support. Outside observer not anybody special but that is something i heard here and also talking to the community. Upon with this said, i think you are making a lot of steps and efforts and i appreciate that and encourage to you continue. To the community as a whole, i want everybody to be very aware that we really as commissioner carter said, we need to work toward a meeting of the mindses. And part of working toward a meeting of the mindses is i would like to strong low encourage everybody to turn down the toxicity of the rhetoric and the commentary. And engage with people on the issues and try to Work Together to find a solution that everybody can get behind. It is i think when somebody is coming at you in a challenging way my wife to me left night when she said why are you talking about the castro theatre you should talk to your son. He is going to college next month and you know you left dintory get eye phone call and veryup set. I went to the defensive place. I dont know its on the hearing this thing it was big are then and there we realized and trying to wrap my head and i within to a defensive accomplice. And. Today in couples Council Counsel i said to her. You know you are right. I do need to be there and be available. And i will work harder to finds thap balance but also i was so defensive because how aggressively you were coming at me and backed mow in acorn exert i apologize. So i guess to be clear in a moment here i will make a motion to continue the resolution i had decided i was going to make that motion before i got here based on talking to the community. You know not keep everybody in suspense we would like to see more engagement. More collaboration. More coming together. Which is so critical for San Francisco. Dont have another town hall. You have rambled on long enough they dont have another town hall and youmented it. Not your time to talk. What you are saying needs to issue backed up. Excuse me. Im sorry. I will motion to continue the resolution. I second. Motion by president laguana and seconded by carter. Commissioner carter. Aye. Commissioner herbert. Aye. Commissioner huie. Aye. President laguana. Aye. Commissioner cartagena. Yes. And Vice President zouzounis. Yes. Motion passes the resolution is tabled. Thank you for your time. [applause]. Next speaker. Have a meeting of the mind when they dont have meeting this is not an appropriate way to interact. We waited 7 months and you dont think the anxiety are in the community until tonight in next item, police item 4 removal of legacy businesses from the legacy business rej stroll a discussion and action item. The commission will discuss and possible low take action remove 6 businesses from the registry. Presenting we have Richard Carrillo the Program Manager with office of Small Business. Good evening president laguana and Vice President zouzounis. Commissioners, staff and public. Richard carrillo. Sfgovtv i have a power point presentation. Buffer are sick legacy businesses ceased operation in San Francisco. Per the registry rules we are recommending the businesses be remove friday the registry. These are the first removals from the legacy business registry we have never done this before am per San Francisco City Attorney in may of 2017 there are 3 situations in which the Small Business commission after a hearing with due process may remove an accident from the business registry. Specific low a business that may be remove friday the registry if it misrepresented qualifications, cease the prescription in San Francisco or no longer committed to min taining the tradition this is lead the business to be listed on the registry. The legacy business rej stroll rules adopt in the april of 2018 mirror the opinion stating any of the following shall be cause to remove a business from the legacy business registry. Small Business Commission determines after hearing the business misrepresented themselves. The determine after the hearing the business cease the prescriptions in San Francisco or determines after hearing the business is in the committed to min taining the traditions that lead the business to be listed on the rej stroll. The rules provided definition for cease the operation in San Francisco. To be eligible for the businesses muff must have operated for 30 or more years with no break exceeding 2 years. No break in San Francisco operations will money no break exceeding 2 years. And no break in physical operations exceedingly 4 years. Item 4a is retrofit vicinitiesage i vintage Clothing Store at 910 valencia district 8 at time and now district 9. They were added on march 27 of 2017 they closed on october 21 of 2017 do you to a reason increase by their land lord. Business rej strigz ended june 29, 2022. Brain washington business a laundromat at folsom street in district 6 added on may 8, 2017. They closed on december 11, 2017 due to declining buildings the learning construction project next door that dragged on for many months. Business registration has not ended. Item 4celbo room a bar on valence why added on april 24 issue 2070. They closed and rej strigz ended on december therein, 2018. The business has moved to oak land. They were addod september 25, 2017. They closed on march 15, 20 then when they shuttered. They had no Business Registration certificate. Nonprofits are required have Business Registrations a lot are not aware and many do not. Item 4e is lets do wash launderette a laundromat and art gallery on balboa in district one added on march 11, 2019. They closed and Business Registration ended march 1 issue 2020 due to rent increase. And latch 4 footwork. Al on thea restaurants they were added on january 14, 2019 they closed on march 16, 2020 due to the pandemic. Please, let mow know if you have questions. Thank you very much. Sobering. Seeing all the long standing businesses be removed from the registry. Yes, it is very sad. A lot of the businesses joined the registry buzz they were going well and things go strategy and they want recognition and they want to be a part of program a lot they are at risk of disaccomplicement they are immediately you know in a position where are risk disaccomplice place am. We get both. There is no Public Commenters online. I dont see anybody. Public comment is closed. Commissioners any comments . It is sad to seat closing of the businesses. So it is somber. You rused to limp near brainwash i could wash my clothes while i was there. Sad to see them close because of reason increase. That is sad. You know as long as rents go up tell be hard for businesses to continue. And i think relevant to the prior item. It is something to keep in mind that things may not be perfect but can get worse. Yea. All right. I will move to what are we moving to on this . Approve the removal . Okay. Move to approve the removal. Motion by president laguanine. Second. Seconded by commissioner herbert. Commissioner carter. Aye. Commissioner herbert. Aye. Commissioner huie. Yes. President laguana. Yes. Commissioner cartagena . Vice president zouzounis. Yes. Motion passes. Next item. Item 5 adopt everadoption of office of Small Business Commission Goal and priorities 2022 to 2023 this is a discussion and action item. Commission will discuss and possible low take action to discuss the office of small believes, Small Business Commission Goals and priority this is is on a copy of this is on tab 5 of your binders. Director tang . Most of you have seen some version of the document out lining the commission and the office mall business strategic prior and goals for the fiscal year. Based on feedback we have separated out the first page you seat clearly the commissions priorities based on the retreat and the dialogue from that. The backside are the strategic goals for the office Small Business. On the backside nothing changed t. Is a reformatting for ease of understanding what our strategic goal and priorities are. Open to questions that you have or feedback. Upon commissioner huie. Director tang i think this looks really good. [laughter]. I want to mention it continues on the other side of the i also second that. It is good and clear from the last meeting. It is easy to read great. With that i ask for the commission a formal adoption of the strategic priority and goals for the next fiscal year. Take Public Comment. First. Lets me check in if there is you have comments. Okay. Is there Public Comment. Why there is none. Okay. I will make a motion to approve. Moved by president well guana. Second. I will read the roll commissioner carter. Aye. Commissioner herbert. Aye. Commissioner huie. Yes. President laguana. Yes. Vice president zouzounis. Yes. Motion passes. Okay. Next item 6 resolution making finalings allow teleconferenced meeting under section 54953e. Commissioners comments or questions, is there Public Comment. Why 99. Public comment is closed. Move to approve the item. Is there a second. I second. Commissioner carter. Aye. Commissioner herbert. Aye. Commissioner huie. Aye. President well laguana. Yes. Vice president zouzounis yes. Approval of draft Meeting Minutes an action item. Commissioners any commentses on the draft minutes . Is there Public Comment . Public comment is closed i move to approve the draft Meeting Minutes. Second. Seconded by commissioner herbert. Commissioner carter. Aye. Commissioner herbert. Aye. Commissioner huie. Aye. President laguana. Aye. Vice president zouzounis. Yes. Next item. 8 general Public Comment a dugz item. Are there members of public like to comment on items not on the agenda upon. There are none. Next item. Item 9 directors report a presentation and discussion item. Please proceed. Thank you. Commissioners, one of the updates i want to share with you is that starting today we had a staff transfer over from oewd to our team. Marine thompson is joining our team not covered by the sister division at oewd and important to economic recovery a lot of the out door events and street activations the efforts as well. She has been instrumental in trying to attract activity and foot traffic to the commercial corridor. We are fortunate to have her transfer to us as of today. The second thing i wanted share is the street Vender Program commission heard about previously. The formal application for the program launched last week. The department of public work system manage thanksgiving program. So people are submitting the applications and office helping those. Street vendors through the press. If you have questions or feedback we love to hear that. Third lowmented to dpif you a heads up we have been working on migrating the business portal information and content over to our ofb website on the sfgovtv platform. Most content hen moved you will see thing in different formats. There are starter guides now. Or how to start a business. Of hands boovenlg all the content is there just in a more accessible format and all in one place we will shut down the business portal september first. Wanted warn you. None of the content is going, way. And then lastly on august 30, next tuesday, the Small Business Development Center is under the office of Small Business is hosting a summit. Take accomplice at the permit center. Froin south vaness some discussions include Small Business lendsers and Resource Partners invitations gone out to founders start up and local leaders. If you like teendz or want information let me know i will send you a link. Thats it for my updates today. Thats great. Any commissioner comments . Any Public Comment. Item 10 commissioner comment and question and new business a discussion item allowing the Vice President and president and commissioners to report, make announce ams and inquiries of staff and introduce new items. Commissioner cartagena. Thank you. I dont know if this is for director tang the question. Operationally like when we set the minutes 1, 2, is it like arbitrary do we have guidelines the amount people in queue. Do we set it. To be honest in fairness to the gentlemen here earlier. Nobody should street you like that off top and im with our president for like you know like for transparency what is the criteria . I can answer or can you. It is at the discretion of the chair. Is the short answer. Going in this meeting that there was concerns this there was a lot of people like 100 plus. Obviously if everybody speaks for 3 minutes we are not getting out until 2 a. M. I had no way of know and no way for mow to check how many are in the call queue. Looking at the number of people in the room, it was clear that it could push the meeting really late. I know some of us have kids and family and obligations and our meeting startslet anyway. I spoke with director tang before. I was concerned about limiting it to a minute but had i saw you know the stack of Public Comments manage in, i nut well lets try a minute. When the gentlemen objected i called [inaudible] and it is at the discretion of the chair. Okay we will find middle ground. Everybody gave a thumbs up to 2 minute this is seemed like an agreeable. More of a technical. No real guidelines and not my favorite to limit Public Comment. I really am not comfortable doing it and i think everything equal i would have preferred 3 minutes perhaps there was in the as many callers we were expecting. You know but hinds sight is 20 20 i have in way of is easier to call than to come i had no idea when we were signed up for and wanted to protect your time and ability to see your families as well. Yes. Director tang. To elaborate maintain the same time for each commenter without knowing how many are in the queue has to be stated up front at the beginning of the item. So hence, guessing how long an item might take you say at the beginning. And if we were down a commissioner and 2 leave because of obligation there is say possibility we get tote sxendz dont have quorum. Now we are we dont get to give everybody the satisfaction of the body making a decision. So its it is what it is. Thank you. Try to do our best. You know i want to go out first i want to acknowledge that was a challenging hearing the measure challenging hearings that we had in my time on the commission. I thought that all our questions remember. On point. Obviously under the brown act i dont have the opportunity to coordinate and say this is coming. And honest low upon given the number of eyes on this, i didnt want to influence how you fwhout it. I sdpn trust how each you have interact with other people and the public and the community. I know that everybody will come at it with the right mind set. Those of you approximate this expressed why is this on the hearing. Am or like. I dont feel prepared thats on me and apologize to the extent you felt you were not sufficient low ready for the intensity of emotions. Im not sure i was and not sure anything i could have said. I knew this was upon an intense issue im not naive and you got a sense of it. I do think in the just because of another planet butt impact on the castro and how move challenging the castro has been under and i will say, i heard from so many Small Businesses who cant be in the room. Who they have to work or like they are at work now. And i just like the recurring refrain i was hearing and reading the new it is reports it struck me as something where there was not enough communication and enough dialogue. And i felt that we could help fourth that communication and that dialogue. It is uncomfortable. Its awkward and it is painful at times but i think we did do that and i then and there for a fact and know there are connections this were made leading up to this meeting that came out of this being on the calendar. Commissioner cartagena. I agree. You know we were about money. Right. You gotta help the Small Business my personal opinion is from the optics having a resolution of support we could have introduced an exploration. What it is up with Small Business. It caught me off guard my name is on it. And thats im out there like that. So thats all. We are Work Together and the dialogue was awe some. I loved. So. I appreciate your candor and feedback. I think that is the fair and i in perhaps we should have circumstantial evidenced it as just a discussion item. The time i read the press reports it was narrow low focussed on the question of seats. There was a bit of skating where the puck would be and i thought there was going to be a meeting of the mindses by the time we arrive exclude that did not help and the issues were more complex than i understand. I think it was in the ideal. I agree. Commissioner herbert. I was going to add that sometimes its mess to provide an opportunity for people who have not been heard to and it is in the better interest of Small Business as well. Small businesses will be affected by the revilingization of the castro or the theatre sitting dark and needed to be discussed public low. And so in that way i feel that we did our job and you made the right decision. And there is no need to apologize for that because it was important to bring it to light for everybody. So. I support that happened. I appreciate that. Thank you. Commissioner carter. Yea. I also second commissioner herbert. I think it will absolutely affect small believeses and so thats why it does need to be in this body. Yea. I mean may be not the optics of it but i feel like we got to where we need to be which is to start the conversation and hopeful that we did i continuing turned out good in the direction it needs to go and will absolutely affect small believes. And everything in San Francisco is community. So the community from what i hear did not feel heard. Any platform to give them a voice and help with that im for it. Yea. I appreciate you. And you know i guess i feel for much of the most of the issues that came before this body were consensus. And i dont think we should be afraid to tackle issues because there are strong feelings or it is controversial. We should not be arc prid to have diverse opinions on this commission. That i think that is part of our role here is trying to figure out how we want to add vocate what we think is important. And may be this is the first in my mind a first tip toe being assertive and worthy of having the discussion if it it is difficult. That was my thought process. I want to ends on a positive note. This is back to the proper role of item. Tiffany invited me to the wall street black millionaire mens cohort ceremony. My wife and i went. I gotta say it was the most im still like i cant tell you how many people i talked about this event to. Im like talked to people whether we can finds you more funding. Because of the quality of what you are doing. It was apparent. Just to bring everybody up to speed. This wonder woman here, has created this along with her other founder 6 other founders. All female or almost all female . Okay. The point is the 1s that showed up at the event i was at you created this during the pandemic and the preaches Commission Secretary said you gota check out this black wall street thing we were talking about it. We gota invite them. It was nebulous. It was not clear what it would be. And so i go to this event still not having detail and being, okay it is something, something. You know i heard from you before it was a program that the folks gone through. I knew there was a womans cohort i did not make that graduation. A youth and senior cohort upcoming. And they train people how to be entrepreneurs. Many are their own businesses. And trin them on things this we take for guaranteed huto open a business ash count and form an llc. And you know all the way to more how you electric at your Business Plan the permit process and bringing in speakers. It was i mean words cant express how powerful it was to see the 25 men one. Whom i upon knew. Damion. Kwhoch is a motivational speaker spent 10 year in prison. Hen shot. Mull pull times and turned his life around and model for youth. And i talked to derrick with the Pressure Washing business. The of the food trucks and the guy with the clothing. Solid mentality. It is 25 of them. It was inspiring and amazing the part i did not know the surprise for me at the end of it. You come least the program xu get an 11 thousand dollars grant. From oewd. And that was nice of you to sponsor all the businesses. And they get this grant and it is like a jump start for them. And i was talking why dont we do this for every kid in high school. We do home ec. Do business ec. And so i think this program is genius. Brill iant and inspiring and moving. I was overwhelmed with the feels after. My wife who like she within there what are we doing why are we going. She was grumpy. I dont know anybody. When do i wear. Degrees up or down. I dont know. And we get out there. Yea. And we get out there and she is just all smiles it was just she came home different mod and talking about it with our friends. Kudos to you. And my god we need more of that. I wanted share. I and know like motorcycleal says i recommend bell im sorry for recommendbling. I want to thank the office of economic and Workforce Development for being our partners in this. None of us set out to do this. There was a need and met bite city we are appreciative we start happened 12 women example it was such a need for received hundreds of applications. I dont want to say i done have High Expectations but they showed up and put so much thought in their applications. We gotta figure it out we increased it to will 25 and 23 graduated they showed up every week. They want it so bad. So and i will e mail katie all the time. How do we get this. Because i know how hard terror it is as a Small Business owner to get those fund and stuff like that and run a business in San Francisco. It simples is new upon. I want to thank president laguana he was perfect for the guys. Were f bombs. Thats how we role. We hope to continue top grow this cohort will be for 18 and 24 year olds look to start and expand businesses im excited see what the new group will bring will everybody suspect different. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Anybody else. Vice president zouzounis. Thank you. First item i wanted bring up was i know we had a presentation on an update where we were with the vender legislation. Street vender. Yes. And um was but i money im really shocked at in this presentation we were not told there was a Police Component fencing off different locations where the vendors are congregating. I dont know if this was a separate policy or coincided. The community does in the know the vendors dont know well is misinformation. I know commissioner cartagena is on this but i would like updates of huwe community this program am there is social modia channels and movements building around fighting it. And they are saying it is 400 dollars for the application. There it is a lot of information and their as i feared it is being viewed one of the same as Police Enforcement this is when we were really ament about on separating out and implementation that is not how it is viewed. I would love an update on how that is being communicated. You know and how the police are being told this it is to community when i that are doing is in the the same as the vendor programming but even their own spokes people are saying we put the fence up until the legislation kicked in. The city spokes people ever missing it up. Im you knowmented raise that. Question. Buffer go to the next commissioner ortiz can respond to that. I can speak on that is helping in the mission district. You are rit there is a lot of misinformation and missing pieces. Community tomorrow we will have a Meeting Community no politicians or police. Just community all sides im facilitating as the elders in the neighborhood. It is a solution based dialogue and getting all parties to community and when is going on. There is a waiver for that 400 vender most of my constituency will qualify and historically i grew up right down 24th. My mom sold tamales out there. Street ventzing hen and to give people an avenue to may be expand to that. If it is want to sell on saturday this is is cool and explore entrepreneurship i think that unfortunately sometimes especially in San Francisco people dont engage in dialogue. Put it all on the tain. See what all the Community Wants im one of those. Im a native does not malice aforethought if you have been here 6 monthses you are a part of the community. Ip dont have special say in the neighborhood because i was born there. But i think, yes, there has been a lot of misinformation and just looking transparency from everybody. Fact that did not go live until last week the legislation was enacted on june 16th thats San Francisco. Commissioner cartagena has been helpful in feeling in the questions in the community. I think what happened prefer to the program taking affect there were other things on the street. Accessibility. So life safety issues or accessibility are enforced sprit and arc part from the actual ventzing program. That caused condition fusion. Thinking that the program had taken affect already. This was will criminalityed it. There is also as you know the police peddler permit program expired. There is also we have learned there is in out reach on that. And so it is all just in who we talk to and whoever contacts our office or Community Groups we share that information they node to switch to the Street Vendor program. The points are well taken we are grateful for Community Partners and commissioners for helping us get clarity on inform terms of the confusion. I think one timing issue. Is that was at the request of the supervisor after. There was fence and like whats in upon yea. Fence and people were saying they were triggered by the fences and things like that. It did not sit well with me. Typeset did in the cement fence added to the accessibility of the street. That was my observation. Seemed it made it. I saw these were put up while waiting for permits to go live. I got it up before i know sometimes i sound like a broken record or like a lobbyist for special interests but im trying to bring up what i see as a systemic issue we have not address said. The enfers am landscape on businesses this my community is extreme. Its its like i know we are getting federal machiney and the city and departments get machine and he i become aware they are using that money for enforcements we are a sanctuary city start and ends with mall business if sancts iary city except arab and muslim business ordinance or to thats not a sanctuary city. I want to finds out coordination with enforce. Efforts. Like board from thes community this need to be a part of the projects . Like or is there a way we can engage that sector. Better instead of just raid them. I just am Alcohol Compliance violation turns to a federal injunction. And communities that are in like the worry on terror on here in San Francisco. I am tired of bringing this up im told it a personal issue. This is a Small Business issue. And um it is not like going to be solved by one resolution we need to look in policy and so specific low i want to learn where are federal money going when it come to Small Business enforcement. Specific low on alcohol and tobacco licensed businesses. This is just we need to figure out how to in our role as Small Business commission address this discrimination of businesses and types of businesses that communities you than dont Vice President the representation in Small Business. In terms of in an item so i guess would you like top present to the commission or would you know i foal i dont understand the issues i heard you mentioned earlier police raiding businesses and you mention today here. I dont feel like not something i can present on this is like there is a lot of pieces to this that we need to finds out and uncover. When we share different alcohol Beverage Control operations that have a federal agency involved. Sxf like we hear d ph getting money from the doj to enforce. I want to understand where does sanctuary city go in those types of efforts . Because like these are you know these violations turn into people not sending money to lived 1 and injunctions on entire businesses. And it is an over all criminalization of demographics and i have a million examples but not a comprehensive presentation. Because these are im getting phone calls a weird abc violation. Well is you know this program they are trying to train. Youth to be entrapment. How can we really like on this commission we talked about how to lockup policies through a lens of compliance opposed to just giving someone a violation or something. And i want us to identify where we can get better at compliance opposed enforcement when it come to licenses. And where that a federal agenda might be coming in our city is not applying [inaudible]. Okay. Commissioner cartagena. Im done. Just to did you want to comments. Go ahead. So i just think im not the first time hearing of this and would be helpful to hear from arab and muslim Business Owner busy their experiences . Like do they feel they are targeted . Racially . Like you know i dont know. We have case studies but i dont know. Im not trying to give a presentation im happy to bring people here im asking for us to try to get to that together. But i think that presentation we can do something we can present to the board this Small Business sector is unfairly targeted and affects is happening on the entire community. Im with you i remember when i of came home the Tax Collector thought i was laundering money. Never, hey. I understand from person experience it is like you are persecuted in your own city. Evp is the same thing it is uni then and there is a federal agency but we have an hsa that deals with the city and they upon dont help the retail Small Businesses they help the premesis businesses and the farmers market. It thats a problem we have ebt licenses lost in neighborhoods and no you know all the funding for that programming in the city does not care about that. Thats a problem. I would like to learn more and i thank you would be appropriate place for the commission to start to figure out how to engage. If the person weapon knowledge about what ask happening. I wish i knew what was happen thanksgiving is why im here. And i think if there an organization that represents or a group that is speak to this or if there are you mentioned case studies subpoena that can present the case studies we need an angle or a hook to talk about it as a commission the first part is like we need to be better educated. And get an understanding of what is happening to understand the input. You know do you think you could find an organization willing to talk about this . Or aware of something we could direct the commission toward and put it as an item on the agenda im open but trying to figure out how that fit in how the commission does its work. I mean i think we start in our own house ask the city about money we are guesting from the feds meant to be for enforcement and like if that is crossing with Small Business. And enforce am we should know about that and should have accountability to the practices . Wo with the director and we can director tang. I money i agree i would like to just i hear some generals and love to learn more about that the challenges are. More than happy to inquire with city agencies. I would like to learn more of the details whether they are trendses or if a one case. You know for a reason. Again i think it is education for us myself included. Okay. I will think again how to better present these systemic questions. To our body. Okay. And you know we are all available to try to do hawe can. It will not be solved by one resolution. This is why i wanted bring policy back as a Common Grounds because i think it will take all of us to get created how we will make this landscape of ens force am equal if there is something that the city has control over. Like whether d ph or sfpd to enforce our Police Something the city has control over i imagine it is possible to at least make a case to a supervisor or some other policy maker that, hey. This thing is happening. We are aware. Would you be willing to change or the pol recommendation. If you want to enengage in policy we need a recommendation. I know but we did go through this with economic Mitigation Working Group all of those things we interrogated were redundant enforce am policy on a sector. We went with the fee schedules. We did. I dont know how else to bring this issue up other than i want to know. Are we a sanctuary city except to these people. I dont know how to ask this question. I think lets start with trying to figure out what questions we may have for d ph or sfpd and start to explore that side of it. And yea. I think there is probably like specific angles Different Directions to got director and i talked about programming programming like the Healthy Retail program like how can we have more accountable to programming and mopy coming from the feds or oewd or sugar beverage tax money to somebody else. How are we like keeping an eye on programming that is involving Small Business sectors but zero Small Business a countability or representation. I brought up sanctuary city is that tha is a tool we have. May be we if there is federal money going to to becomeo enforcement may be should be a board for that. Thats the lever available you to. Lets look into it. It sounds like it is an important topic. Commissioner cartagena . Report become over the weekend on saturday we had our king of the streets with sf low ride are council amazing events. Grit for Small Business. 24th street and Mission Street was jam packed. This is a regional cultural event and brings everybody that loves cars, brings families out. A lot of city officials. And walk up and down enjoying the food from venders and it it is fun and he ironic in the 80s we got harassed and now the sfpd is blocking the streets for us. And more an example San Francisco we do it san hose sdpe l. A. Fine the low ride are community and dont understand how to take something cultural and activist a Small Business corridor with this in community. A great example of what we do right in San Francisco we do get things right sometimes. I love that. All right anybody else . No. Public comment . There is none. Public comment is closed. Next item. Adjournment. Sfgovtv show the office of Small Business slide. We will ends with reminder that the Small Business commission is the forum to voice opinion and concerns about policy that affect the economic i have tellity of Small Business in san frathe office of Small Business system best way to get answers if you need assistance reach out meeting adjourned meetd d d for us, we wish we had our queue and we created spaces that are active. Food and drinks. There is a lot for a lot of folks and community. For us, it started back in 1966 and it was a diner and where our ancestors gathered to connect. I think coffee and food is the very fabric of our community as well as we take care of each other. To have a popup in the tenderloin gives it so much meaning. We are always creating impactful meaning of the lives of the people, and once we create a space and focus on the most marginalized, you really include a space for everyone. Coffee is so cultural for many communities and we have coffee of maria inspired by my grandmother from mexico. I have many many memories of sharing coffee with her late at night. So we carry that into everything we do. Currently we are on a journey that is going to open up the first brick and mortar in San Francisco specifically in the tenderloin. We want to stay true to our ancestors in the tenderloin. So we are getting ready for that and getting ready for celebrating our anniversary. It has been well supported and well talked about in our community. Thats why we are pushing it so much because thats how we started. Very active Community Members. They give back to the community. Support trends and give back and give a safe space for all. We also want to let folks know that if they want to be in a safe space, we have a pay it Forward Program that allows 20 to get some funds for someone in need can come and get a cup of coffee, pastry and feel welcomed in our community. To be among our community, you are always welcome here. You dont have to buy anything or get anything, just be here and express yourself and be your authentic self and we will always take care of you. So, welcome everybody. Welcome, thats right. Give yourselves a hand. Were alive. We are aint dead, its no funeral right. Its about saving lives. Before i