Transcripts For SFGTV LIVE Police Commission 20160505

Please silence all electronic devices. And can you please rise for the pledge of allegiance. America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Commissioner president loftus im not thank you, sergeant commissioner president loftus commissioner turman commissioner marshall commissioner dejesus commissioner mazzuco commissioner wong commissioner wong is in route and commissioner serlina have you a quorum and greg suhr the police chief and director the occ joyce hicks. Thank you sergeant id like to welcome everyone to the wednesday, may 4, 2016, Police Commission meeting i do have to start that meeting acknowledging the place were in as a city were here every once to do the work and there are still a lot of folks grieving and concerned and feeling like all the work were doing still isnt enough together is about continuing this work in actor and doing the work youll see the agenda from university of california, San Francisco to updates on collaborative reform to how were we keeping our streets save and the commission is doing the work and acknowledging there are a lot of folks still in pain and grieving and that for three and four no way just reaffirms why i do this service. Thank you lets go ahead and call line item. Commissioners for the record item 4a one the presentation of the First Quarter felt finding and recommendations n focusing is taken off the agenda. It is just the last report. Item one adoption of approval of the minutes minutes for april 6th and 20th of 2016. Colleagues you have in your packets minutes any correction to the minutes. Is there a motion . Second. Second. All in favor, say i. I. Public comment. Oh, any Public Comment on the minutes. Hernandez o hearing none, Public Comment is closed. That item passes southeast. Item 2 consent calendar receive and file action sfpd occ document protocol for 2016 a report from the occ that indicates compliance between the department and the occ the department i would note has done an excellent job in producing the documents any questions on this matter. Any Public Comment . Hearing none, Public Comment is closed. Another motion all in favor, say i. I. Opposed . That item passes sergeant, next line item. Item 3 Public Comment the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonights agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. Please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personal. Two minutes. Okay please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personal. Under Police Commission rules of order neither the Police Department, occi or commissioners are to respond to the questions Police Commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. 2 minutes. Thank you good evening and welcome. Commissioners ray hart for San Francisco open government. Two weeks ago when i was here he was pubically accused of violating the mayors policy on harassment either the president has not read those and didnt understand that is protected classes my comments didnt fall under this is nithsz or know and choose to federal and local accuse any in public on television of violating the mayors policy im owed an apology i didnt violate the mayors policy if i dont ill file a complaint under the sunshine ordinance for subpoena pressing Public Comment to pubically denigrated and undercut my standing as a member of the community and my right as a citizen to make Public Comment and inflame people against me i only said Something Like that that tilts on the bore which i read in dozens. Ill. Of literature. Im going to let you finish i want to hear everything you have to said. The same unique was used at me at the Library Commission and accused of violating the policy i didnt and end up in the estoppel with the Library Commission being heard on tape saying i know 12 people that could buyer him. So basically Public Comment in the city i have miff the mayor was found in violation of e racing his calendar i think was a great big deal. Part of any obligation to insure any comments made that could be often to a protected class and women are you make sure i indicate that is not the opinion of this commission so that anybody here an employer or member of the public feels weve infringed on their Voting Rights next item, please. Good afternoon commissioner president loftus and commissioners im former police compared a nature San Francisco born and raised and past the half century mark im here to say congratulations chief even this is difficult times to reiterate what i said Property Line and pubically said i watch colonel our the last 25 years and had the privilege of working with you in the Mission District i know how to much you care and watched you when you were the Commanding Office and gave gave the respective to our communities congratulate you 5 years have been difficult but i know we will see you complete your task as you had a job and will do that commissioners, i ask you utensil start to think outside the box understand that we all have those prerockets but now is one of the most difficult times in the history of the city and the Police Department the man that is sitting there with the stars cant do the job alone so you have prerequisites i understand that is like being in a little box but push against the sides and think outside the box never said i expect anyone to violate dlus but things you can do i wish you well and make sure this city whole and bring the trust and confidence in the Police Department. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. Good evening thank you for the smile and welcome peter yeah. I went to remind ive been here before the statement in the least of me was a reference to the animals and the School Systems and churches never teach the children that a long time people einstein and jesus and Martin Luther king and hundreds and hundreds of beacons because murder included the animals were in a nation full of turmoil in a city that is has turmoil is like a rose that is ready to bloom i stopped down and given they gave me a piece of my mind at the mission the protesters oh, it is about brown and black what go you know the corrupt people that maintain the power by the colored i said wake up i came down also to award chief suhr the captain cojack award for maintaining under adverse politics and tootsie role cops sent to the Mission Street soon and in regards to the stickerers i didnt hear of a fast people put on weight and drinking chocolate shakes. Everyone get two minutes at any rate well follow the rules youre next youre next go ahead finish. I really want to get a chance to hear from you and if you dont chanting . I dont get to hear from everyone. Hey guys i want to hear from etch of i want to hear from etch of you you want to hear from everyone we will adjourn and youll not get our time well adjourn and we will recess and youll not get your time do you want to talk to us do you want to talk to us two minutes no, no two minutes do you want to be heard. Do you want to be heard. And everyone gets two minutes even e everybody gets two minutes i want you guys help if you want to participate if you want to participate okay. Were in adjournment until we can do this not adjourn well take a recess and not to do the work were going to take a recess chanting we have an overflow room call the next line item. Shut up were attending a meeting well keep on going well resume Public Comment you cant hear me in our shouting people low resume Public Comment ill explain were going to make sure there is an overflow room we want to hear from everyone weve con it before hold on one second i want to make sure we hear from everybody sergeant an overflow room overflow room 416 is the overflow room and people can leave on this so many so i wanted to make sure we need to fix that thank you. So sergeant make sure the tv is on we want to make sure it is on hey i appreciate that we all need to keep your cool only so many seats not up to me not up to me. Okay. Guys. Listen up i got confirm the tv is on the room not up to me but the sheriff how many people can be about the room i want to hear from you not up to me. chanting it you want to lingo the overflow room or well have to have another recess and i dont get to hear from you. I want to hear if ever be two minutes at that time, you know how to goes. Two minutes at that time, and lets do it guys we can do this. chanting we can resume Public Comment they and then hear the congestion you can give up your seat and someone can come in give up our seat well make sure that people get to come in and take a seat thank you 4 15 4 15 all right. Sir youve given Public Comment. Oh, i am sorry you more time left. schant i dont get to hear from you. My request of the people that want to be heard we want to commend hear from you. chanting make sure we dont get to hear from anyone this is you can view Public Comment and give up your public seats thats the solution. chanting . How about lets do. Lets do. You guys want to be heard chanting . All right. Well come back to hear if everyone but we have to be able to hear from each speaker thank you lets try 24 one more time, sir. You have to continue to let those folks in okay. Firefighter chief suhr were in recess agawere in rw. Firefighte chief suhr well go first okay. Yeah. Okay. We commissioner president loftus were back in session thank you, everyone for your patience to be here to continue this work we were where we left off many general Public Comment well continue everybody gets two minutes ill welcome the next speaker. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. Two minutes. Commissioners youve heard this before tasers are lethal weapons of torture in the face of corporate lies about the technical concussion device device that cant be repeated dpufrz repeated lies about tasers it operationally is fuel for the row nation theyve documented hundreds of people have been killed by tasers the Homeless Coalition presented to the Police Commission has evidence wherever a Police Department gets tasers that Police Department use of gun shootings increase dramatic and it is an circulation of violence in the Police Department a recent baltimore son in depth report which i gave you a copy officially for the record at the loose meeting and im going to quote from that you stated a first, this appeared in the march 16 a first Data Analysis of all tasers incidents in Maryland Police agencies are predominantly use those against suspects with no medal threat in hundreds of cases over a 3 year Period Police didnt follow widely accepted recommendations legal and policing experts worry about this is as increasing number of departments outfit for officers with stun guns a tasers used by Police Officers nine hundred and 4 times a day on average. Thank you, sir next speaker for general Public Comment good evening ms. Brown. Its been a long evening but as usual im here to or here to talk about my son Aubrey Abrakasa like to use the overhead any son Aubrey Abrakasa what was mshtd august 14, 2006, and let me make sure they got it i have something wrong with it does it its there. Oh. Thank you. Well start our time great. What happened to it was so big. Okay. Thats fine as i said before there is a 200 and 50,000 award issued by the Mayors Office for the to catch the perpetrators that murdered any son mothers day is coming sunday and im not feeling that good about it it will not be a mothers day for me i dont have any child my only son that should be bringing me some flowers i dont have that so im here still keeping his memory alive and case alive this is a cold case now as i said everyone knows who killed any son i bring up and carry the thing that was George Gascon he mentioned i know who killed my son the da knows who killed my son but nobody it doing anything about it these are the names theyre on my sons case and when George Gascon said he know,s who killed my son thomas han billion peculiar paris moffett and jason thomas and Anthony Hunter and Marcus Connor one is in jail i dont know if hes out i fight for my child but several unsolved homicides that is what im left with for mothers day my son laying on a generous and his moll mother standing over him 23 anyone asks me i want any son back thats what i want i know its not possible but thats what i want thank you ms. Brown if anyone has information about the murder of Aubrey Abrakasa an unanimous tip line 415 5754444 thank you and. Next speaker. General Public Comment. Good evening and welcome. Hello so its been a long time since i came to speak improvements you im nina parks born and raised in San Francisco and worked with you guys on any initiatives something im here to address the issue of the hunger sticker and the fact theres been no response probation officer get them on the agenda addressed some of the needs respect it is kind of hard to deny there is something very, very wrong structurally; right . Because even after we pass the general order that laid out the Community Values and partnerships 3 laid out training that laid out all those things we have more issue worse it started in the community that we even started to draft that the inning side station the dispatch and the officers that shot out the windows we were doing policing work so when the general orders like a meeting at the Caesar Chavez middle school and how were working towards that means training and communitybased training i came to educate the officer to to address the officers not only one responsible on one person with that note being put to bed and implemented you guys not having commerce at Balboa Park High School commissioner president loftus said the general orders say in their in enforcement by the Police Commission and there was no clarification i have it on video no clarification afterward for the community was left with so none knows what is what you dont say a consensus how we 130e7d to know who is supposed to hold a what of its the case none knows everyone has to go obviously we have a facility i didnt system no accountability what do we do. Two minutes. Everyone and everyone has two minutes. Okay. I hear you and if there the was a clarification ill talk about it im not beyond making a mistake ill followup on what that was and happy to clarify okay. Next speaker. Mr. Crew. Good evening and welcome. Thank you call your attention to first report ghirardelli principle on use of force this came out you should be proud San Francisco Police Department is is a significant notice principle 9 talks about the time and distance and not rush with force ill talked about that before on the table it says it requires officers to create distance and time to create a report were only a dogger to ourselves chief suhr is quoted talking about as a nobrainer easy to follow absolute rules and nobrainer said in d. C. A conference the chief Financial Officer executive and weve not had a situation where a person is only a danger to himself and 10 weeks later it happened the policy that was issued 4 times in 5 years a simple easy to follow nobrainer absolute rule was obviously not followed and ruled in a traechlg tragically loss of life the officers acted appropriately and said we need tasers ive been asking for transparency in the sense of speaking simple truth the way the chief did in washington, d. C. For the reports around the country a nobrainer easy to follow absolute rule what is said in d. C. To a group of Police Chiefs on a National Report needs to be said in San Francisco clapping. it is dangerous excuse me excuse me. It is dangerous for the confusion to remain out there officers read the newspapers they hear with the poa says ive been talking about the need for accountability we shouldnt be surprised those are happening. Ill save the discussion for the use of force policy. Next speaker. Any further general Public Comment. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. Good evening and director hicks and chief suhr im barbara im a Police Officer accountability consultant i worked at occ with the berkley Police Commission and the auditor on a san jose and the president of the National Association for civilian enforcement i too other people here to speak about accountability it is the responsible of those in office you as commissioners the mayor, to hold the chief audible and to hold the responsibility of the police force to hold officers audible not any responsibility to come to the Police Commission for a long time i feel the city is in crisis the mario woods shooting shouldnt have happened the officers have a range of techniques and not killed mr. Woods with over 20 bullets after the woods shooting chief suhr cycled the university of california, San Francisco rules and required the officers put time and space is between the folks and another person was killed within thirty seconds of officers arriving at the scene chief suhr as defend the officers and lied with the description of the incident no accountability by chief suhr two tech message were message were recorded bids da and the public defender has recorded issues and now again, the chief and poa are demanding tasers a weapon that is associated search warrant hundreds of deaths even when used as directed if their misused the numbers are up i worked at san jose when 7 people died after tasers were used the numbers of people dying at the hands of police didnt go down i want to share an ad i wrote thank you next speaker. Good evening and welcome. Post and a supporter of hunger stickers more importantly im a mom and im too hearten broken celebrating mothers day reflective on the mario woods matter obtain alex mother and lou wife and children on the mom of lopez you, you the 7 of you could fire this man, you could hold i am audible and you could institute the reforms that are necessary to change the daufkz of policing in the city what more evidence is required the first time i testified before you was the evening of january 20th in a career of attending public hearings ive never seen a group of Public Servant bailiff with complete animosity towards the oversight a hundred officers with their guns bull their way to the microphone and make their testimony and shout thats how we win show of force like a gang of thugs is that note alarming does that note alarm you if thats the way they behave in front of you in front of the press and the community what are redoing on the street where nobody is watching them the second time i testified was the evening of april 6th i said another Police Killing is imminent and i urge you to take responsibility of reforming this department seriously the next day i was walking down the street and pops up on my facebook the Mission Police station struck again, when i saw the video. Thank you. You are responsible. Thank you, thank next speaker. clapping. good evening and welcome. Good evening. Im giving you notice that is part of a campaign to replace this board with a democratic justice and reparation the problem that the San Francisco Police Commission composed of choose by the board of supervisors and failed to rein in a cop who purposes a cover that protects Police Terror to give people of color and the board applies the pressure with the commissioners, on that motion giving the San Francisco Police Department green light for wrongdoing awhile up holdings the status quo with selfrespective and selfdefense it is the mission of campaign for Police Commission of justice to create a democratic Oversight Board that will issue accountability transparency and justice thank you. The pleasure being all yours. Indeed. Next speaker. Good evening and welcome. Good evening. Thank you for your patience ill bill ham 12 year resident of San Francisco chief suhr you really should go ; right . clapping. starts with you but what we really need from you guys aside from getting out eve here reform the way we train our police we need to change the curriculum at the Police Academy more time on constitutional law and more time spent on dealing what people with mental issues; right . Use of force not only in our country is out of hand weve seen in the youtube era and see Police Officers all over the world apprehend folks without the university of california, San Francisco we use of force we need to start at the Police Academy we need academy policing we need to change the psychologist of the next generation of Police Officers thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Can you put the mike down. One week after learning in cnn a 6yearold boy inaudible by any chief Financial Officer the superintendent asked the police chief refrain from using tasers frofrom students. John and peter were involved with what happened to the man that was whatever you want to call it they were focused on the science and medicine around that and node interested in what heaped mr. Butler that of those an interesting change we knew the therapy say was on multi discharges to at least 5 discharges but southwesterly suddenly we have butler and only 3 discharges and a cardiac ari was not on methamphetamines he was a drunk guy on a bus so heres the next one. In dispute on any thought or anything his arm in the air and said im going to tasers you. We heard on the other recording you can hear the words conversation battery and then you hear multiply screams 339. And when i went out there and went around stanley and tried to get over they they wouldnt let us to the curve to him and threatened to tasers and throw us in jail arne wife. Okay 33 Stanley Harlan breaks any heart he takes his views hard here you see that all played out on video. 39 in route area williams 38 minutes after. Within a minute or a minute and a half youll see his respirations and this poor young man is dying. White male semiconscious semi unresponsive. And was all stood there and watched stanley die those officers stood around there and the nothing. Heres the one i put together myself and when i look at the Darrell Turner case i was absolutely appalled turner case was extremely important case no other restraint other than the tasers was involved a direct chest shot it came out of the backroom wearing an undershirt darrell knocked the standoff the considerate as this is happening officer dobson pulls up and you hear 2 from outside he comes in you see clearing on the tape hes pulling the tasers before he know anything and dearly is standing in the corner you see it a dobson walks up to him and darrell is standing there you see the tasers and dobson pulls the trigger 4 or 4 feet and dearly does the walk. Straggles you follow it on the different cameras and as and collapses off camera two cameras on the each of the front doors. Then you can see what the timing is before the Fire Department and the paramedics show up and then they take him out in the journey and hes dead. They were getting effects from the tasers discharges on a swine model that indicated that cardiac captured cardiac capture being the precursor to the cardiac arrest. This is from the experiments we see okay. Thank you further Public Comment come up. Heres the 9 dvds thank you, sir. Thank you, sir next speaker. Good evening and welcome. Hello this is my name is silvia johnson. And theres a lot of things that has to be done and so we think get rid of the tasers i mean those lazer have been attacking younger people and some of these equipment probably were handmaid i think that we need to get more i should have a long time this is one of the plans of the devil try to scare everybody and it is all a scar and shes trying to tell you a bunch of crap that isnt there he knows that he this is his will to create a bunch of crap there is a lot of things we need to do underlie and the freedom we had already and trust is back because hes the only person that is da stated that knows the drought what his plans are hes scared of because he knows it will be soft banner and i said this a long time you know a streak some other things that you have didnt make sense and i realized it has thank you thank you very much. Next speaker. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. Claudia stevens i have nothing to say about chief suhr my daughter was murdered 6 years ago and 6 years the prestation officers handled the Domestic Violence against my daughter eventually murdered by james mitch and this is the 911 call when i was on with the california 2 two years i was on with the dispatcher and licenses to 6 officers respond to the part time and catch him and put him in cuffs and i called to her, she got mad they hang up i looked for 10 minutes a female and 3 offers a baby shower james had a gun in here mouth and james was free and hit like this and i asked for 6 years i called the Police Commission i was r Planning Commission i was lied by the officers im the captain im the chief thats bull and as a mother i found my daughter hit her ten times with the baseball bat and her murdered happened in marin her crime happened here and all sfpd and you know there is nothing going to bring her back but im here because you know something is going wrong here and as a former Police Officer not necessarily to pull a gun with four other partners and empty the whole magazine four of them i dont know maybe i dont know check or something but i know that my daughter it is a crime she was underserved im sorry ms. Stephens im sorry this happened i want to tell you also a senior investigator her from well it is up to you but shes here to take the complaint i can offer someone if the Police Department. I would invite the investigator to practical make yourself available any further Public Comment . Good evening and welcome. Hello my name is james and today id like to talk about leadership theres so much hurt city right now and so much pain and very little trust towards the San Francisco Police Department you saw that earlier today, you see that in front of the Mission Police station with the hunger stickers and important step in the healing process is to replace the police chief a change in leadership will show the community that we as city leadership are serious about accountability this commission needs to discuss what the city needs a police chief and what this city needs in Police Leadership that it is one thing to fire the police chief but what comes next and so this is something you can do you can put a review of leadership and leadership accountability on the agenda for the next meeting. clapping. and whether or not the commission believes that chief suhr should be fired thats a question that you will have to answer at some point but the first step is Start Talking and talking in public thank you. Thank you for your comments thank you. Next speaker. clapping. good evening and welcome. Good evening im sorry joses perez we dont need do tasersy have a heart problem and a tasers you know so we shouldnt have no tasers but Something Better to you know like the a long time with the video they showed the way to come down you know save person or could find other ways we dont need tasers please no tasers okay. Thank you, mr. Perez clapping . Next speaker good evening and welcome. Hi good evening here i am again spoken to you so many times it seems like im speaking to tonedeaf areas no common sense the community is unhappy a reason for that and as far as the solution the form yeah, its net but the first thing is for chief suhr to go not only for the murder but the track record if my resume were like chief suhr i wouldnt get promoted and now the highest paid conceiving if the country and as far as or more lets say it the hiring process needs to be reformed you know there Small Business Police Officers should be required to say have a degree i want to police for more wellrounded and trinity why does the public have no say in the requirements of hiring mr. Marshall said if chief suhr goes well not find anyone better if thats the case were screwed think about it clapping. and i mean, ill pleading with you to use your intelligence like the mraith it is really aggravating and insulting our intelligence you dont have to listen to this abuse we dont like to sit here and be placated chp ill directing your attention to page 5 of the letter to mayor ed lee he sat with gregory one of the reforms we talked about you have been vocal and youve raised this with the kids that worked with us through bullet around a difference force on february 19, 2016, the last bullet is all procedures for conducting backgrounds checks for candidates that fits the description i want to clarify that to which who we have had a number of Public Comment incorporated to the reforms you can not take my word by hold us audible to accomplishing that thank you for coming and offering ceded solutions that we need to act on. Next speaker. Sorry if i is that letter you mentioned on the website is it pubically available. Yes. It is thank you my name is tammy bryant i was here the night mario woods was shot and killed i was shocked and heart broken what happens there is a shooting he didnt know the details i was disappointed to go last time to the forum with the pet adoption and the chief was there i wanted to here be open and i dont think there is anything Security Risk within the synagogue one of the best protected place i think this daily force is without merit i could have dealt with mario woods no weapon you talk to people theres a since itch humanity a connection with people didnt have to circulate to violence and were not hiring people that are motivated by love im also here in support of 5 im really, really bothered theyve not eaten for two weeks and something needs to happen im a mother and grandmother it bothered we a lot everyday and their sorry their questions and concerns need to be addressed the training of recruitments is key were recruiting from the community and like i said recruiting people with a heart theres a lot of good officers but some that shouldnt be Police Officers im so disturbed about the text message those words should not be out of any bodies mouth that is disgust overseeing officers have to go i dont care about statute of limitations and the values are not important how theyre on the street when he profile and arrest when you arrest and and the brown and black face the consequences i dont want to be here thank you, ms. Bryant. Next speaker. clapping. dr. Marshall wants to clarify of the banish of the text messenger there are 8 that are pending appeal before the wrlz and the jurisdiction of the commission but 3 out of 4 officers textmessaging are no longer officers with the San Francisco Police Department they were facing termination with this commission and retired or reassigned one with a pending trial before us so. Next speaker. Yeah, thats. Next speaker. Hi my name is a alicia im here first, i want to start off with a little bit of history you may not remember our money day Police Departments the history comes from slavery slave catchers the slave catchers reformed their roles and are to be the sfpd the o pd at next door understanding we know that in oakland and San Francisco when black folks were fleeing from the south they were a call put out to white folks from the south and other regions of the country to join what they call the Police Department to stop those black folks from existing in the bay area from existing in what we know and open San Francisco that history is not far away that history is at least in my family alone you only have to look back two or three generations to look at folks who are the folks fleeing from the south to look at the black folks the ones being patrolled by the descents of slave catchers so one of the things i struggle with ask that were investing resources in Police Training and if we can invest resources in the descends of slave catchers not stop the sickness of gentrification and all the Police Murders why can we not fire commissioner president suzy loftus why can we not support the lives of the under stickers if thats not that far off for us to invest why not invest in the community thank you. clapping. any further general Public Comment hearing none, Public Comment is closed. Sergeant as chair so many people are here to talk about and this stakeholders are waiting a long time ill advance item number 5 move item 5 to the next item and then sergeant kilshaw to call discussion on university of california, San Francisco and draft of energy discussion. Ill invite everyone in recruiting in this department to stay this is the question of the direction well go in are were going to go in shawl circulate or go in should if reasonable there are key queasy well be deciding i will in my invitation. Its 23450i9s invitation for you to stay that is the meat of reform this is the work my invitation ill ask the amps the coalition on homelessness and the stakeholders that helped us, please come up well start this discussion now it is really important so colleagues you have started off by thanking all the various groups that participated inch named the coalition of homeless at the table the da the Blue Ribbon Panel and ta Police Officers association the Bar Association a representative from the Mental Health working group with the crisis sfwreej participate some young people that worked us through is cf i colleagues you have those documents documents we set on defenseless 9 to reopen university of california, San Francisco policies in the department this is the result of that conversation you have hundreds of pages of recommendations on where we should go ill direct your attention to a letter from may 2nd from the the Bar Association they indicate that the stakeholder met 3 times 6 hours at a time and they feel passionately about the positions were here to talk about them ill walk you through though the major issues and start off as a guide with the Bar Association letter with a big picture of the outstanding issues ill ask that since folks are waited in members of the Stakeholder Group want to take the 5 minutes on the front end and skai say what you want to say well then have our discussion in Public Comment after so thats my invitation come on up. Good evening. Good evening okay. Im spur tired jennifer freedom book of the coalition on homelessness so thats correct so much for thank you for your time on this work that im really feeling optimistic that well be able to make some really positive changes in the department general orders and the work the pd is doing we kind of have you know a lot of agreements and what is put forward our general areas where wed like to push in a certain direction especially around the use of minimum versus reasonable we firmly believe that the use of word reasonable and reasonable force is a step back beyond the current policy and bipgz brings us to a level that didnt talk about the accountability we prefer the use of the words minimal or necessary throughout the document so thats been the general order 5. 01 but applies to the 0 one point one that language is referred to the second piece is around the use of verbal deesclation we firmly believe that the general orders should be about the officers shall use verbal deesclation and practical we firmly believe that gives the officers enough flexibility in the situations where verbal deesclation is not practical but a strong indication of the preference when it is safe and feasible thirdly, around Crisis Intervention Team im emphasizing the word team we have all along had the position that the crisis intervene team general order Small Business considered along with the other 3 general orders in the directive because theres so much over laptop between the different areas and were of the position in terms of the Crisis Intervention Team wear making a lot of progress and a lot of positive things happening especially, since during this year in 2016 but we were a long ways to go by the end of the year we were at 15 percent but another 5 but another 75 percent needs to be implemented to really truly have an actual team where theres a take cattle plan experts on the team team that go out and try to contact the family members and do all the work that is happening in certain locations within the Police Department now successfully and so on the times not happening we want to make that uniform and on one case if there was an approach where there was a Team Approach there would have been time and distance one of the key members would have talked to the key person not in risk and they would have been able to tell the officers his brother was a block away all those things could have hoped happened that we see a lot more work that needs to be done on the Crisis Intervention Team he could spend more time of the analyze that needs to be done on the Crisis Intervention Team well be meeting with the chief and the next is the electronic control weapons we opposite the use of those weapons not appropriate to introduce a new weapon at this time and increase the not only the in custody around the state when their introduced but the doubled the officerinvolved shootings and the replacement for a gun no data . That out so we reject that notion and want the department to go in a different direction and the other one around the data. We have everyones represents in writing so thank you jennifer anyone else from the Stakeholders Group miriam director hicks do you want to i want to underscore one driving force around Data Collection and other about the university of california, San Francisco we cant analysis what is working if we dont know what happened across the country a fix under the 5. 011 there be clear a clear agreement about there will be Data Collection on the website and older and quarterly and posts those fixes are easy and so thats one thing weve been clear and ive given example of this how to collect the data that goes a long way to see what is working and not working other things wanting a gun at an individual this Police Department has the opportunity to follow what another Police Departments do one acknowledge how terrifying and set the right standard not just safety it is the standards where the over believes that things will circulate the officer needs deadly force or serious Bodily Injury so again, you can set the right standard and training the department dont that but incorporate it into this section and other things a huge difference between middle and reasonableness and if you look at all of the material all the materials that the 21st Century Policing everyone is talking about a minimal university of california, San Francisco meaning deesclation at the center when we talk about reasonableness were taking a step back background i ask you to use the language it is what the community is pleading this department to do what the department in theyre old and actually currently incorporate the best part into this d go a few other things restricting shooting another cars the departments are doing it again, a nobrainer i know the department ive heard chief suhr and other fully agree it is should be restricted and looking at what happened across the country when it was restricted and the shootings at cars go down and the potentially of individuals injured when officers shot at cars is great i urge you to do that and proportions outlet is by the time we got dot third drafts the language was missing i urge you to look at the draft language we offered and to incorporate that lastly theres case law about what an office when theres university of california, San Francisco what are some factors that should be looked at i urge you to look at the case law especially around the California Supreme Court case of hayes many laws Law Enforcement look at not just the moment of a shooting but the officers Decision Making and look to see from the officer was interest a potential to do other things and so they look at the whole conduct to see when the university of california, San Francisco was reasonable this department should be doing that and analyzing and looking at the the moment from an interaction and evaluate what went right and wrong the hayes decision is using that board lens and urge the university of california, San Francisco policy incorporate that and other 9 circuit decisions with with analyzing the university of california, San Francisco appropriately and thank you for your time to listen to us all and im ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. And offer research and whatever he can do to help. Youve worked tireless miriam i have one question one of the questions that i saw from some of the Police Officers groups was that codifying the exact categories for university of california, San Francisco interest there was a sense that will change with local and state and federal legislation i imagine you look at that those are standard that would be required and that it is possible that the we cant control other municipalities. Talk about youre certain not one of the situations where the dojs is changed and end up being something, something that slows down. Some of the categories has to do with with how Police Officers should be interacting with the mentally ill were truth trug looking this my name is the time for the departments training some of the decisions so why not incorporate them into 5. 01 the hayes valley the California Supreme Court has been around it is a civil case that makes this Department Better other departments look at the entire sequence of events if we looked at a commitment to deesclation and other ways to use minimal force look at the entire scenario we should look at it from the beginning to the end of the California Supreme Court in looking what reasonable force in that regard we have 4 cases around for a long time and