Transcripts For SFGTV BOS Full Board Of Supervisors 20220928

Right under the law and whats right for our patients. Thank you for your comments. Public speaker my name is steve, also a member of kaiser. I think its really not only sickening whats going on at kaiser but its clinical. They have committed to provide Mental Health care to clients, their members, they are not doing it. Frankly, the reason they have a board of supervisors with contempt because they are not being held accountable. What i think it means is this board of supervisors, if you are serious, to call on the San Francisco District Attorney to investigate the prosecution of kaiser for fraud. They are committing fraud on the people of san franciscans. They make promises and they dont carry them out and institute an investigation and criminal charges against the executives of kaiser for committing these acts of fraud which have led to the deaths and suicide of the patients who didnt get care. Its requiring the federal law to require from state law and they are just ignoring it. If they are not held accountable, they will continue doing it. The governor has been silent about it because he gets money from kaiser. They control california and there is no one above the law. The engineers Contract Union went on strike for a few months. This is hurting all the patients of kaiser. There is going to be a rally on october 7th at 7 00 a. M. Because the same thing is going on for laguna honored. We are going to be meeting october 11th. We have to unite all. Thank you for your comments this evening. All right. Mr. Atkins, lets hear from our next caller, please. I think weve got about four more in the queue. Public speaker the union went on contract for a few months. Its harming all the patients of kaiser. I wanted to say that this coming saturday [inaudible] public speaker hi, my name is david, im a Kaiser Oakland patient and my spouse is a kaiser worker. I have suffered with depression for three decades. If it was properly treated when i was younger, i wouldnt be going through the hell that i have been in. Im grateful to have health care and grateful to have a spouse. Its not just about kaiser here in california, this is about Mental Health care in the entire us and the world. We need to have adequate and timely care and we need to ensure that kaiser is held accountable. I fully support this strike and encourage folks to support. Please get out there. We need your support. If the board of supervisors can do anything to hold kaiser accountable. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Before we go to the next caller, i just want to say if you are listening to this on your computer or your television, before you speak, please turn down your television because we will hear back in this chamber what the previous caller was indicating due to the delay. All right. Mr. Atkins, can you please send through our next caller, thank you. Public speaker hi, my name is alice, a student working to become a clinical psychologist in the area. I just want to draw attention to the concern i have. Im in an Academic Community and a lot of the therapist in Mental Health agencies providing therapy are student clinicians or interns and kaiser also has a pretty broad training and internship program. Oftentimes these are not paid or very small stipend. Im concerned that kaiser might try to use training and interns to cover the overburdened system to help manage this problem. I would like to make sure they dont off load so much of this burden on the shoulders of people who are still learning. We are inexperienced and its dangerous and unethical to have the most vulnerable at risk clients to be put on people with the least amount of experience who might be at risk during this most difficult time. We need to learn and grow to become the best clinicians possible. I support those on strike and wish we had the same organizing rights. If you are one of the 18 and listening, and want to get in the queue if you havent already, press star 3. Public speaker hi. Im a licensed psychologist working with kaiser for 12 years. That is a state law that requires kaiser to provide appointments within ten days. Within seven weeks of the strike, kaiser has been canceling thousands of appointments everyday violating the law and unfortunately our Governor Newsom has not been holding kaiser accountable for breaking the law. I want to urge San Francisco board of supervisors to pass this motion today urging Governor Newsom to get involved and resolve the crisis that is happening right now. Thank you. Thank you, dr. Viska gutkin for your comments. Next caller, please. Welcome, caller. Public speaker mr. Atkins . Madam clerk, there are no other callers in the queue. Thank you. Thank you. Public comment is now closed. Thank you president walton. I would like to thank supervisor ronen for calling this hearing and reminder what happened years ago to the legislative aid and what happened to her daughter. Just to think five years later we are still discussing the same thing like ground hog day. Its so infuriating. I want to thank you very much for staying true to this issue and pushing on it, and i just, i literally am sitting here trying to contain my rage after everything i have just heard knowing what peoples Mental Health challenges were before this pandemic and especially for our youth and adolescence, the helplessness and depression and thoughts of suicide they had before and the devastating impacts on the pandemic on that. Im sure all of us have a story and know someone who suffered. It is way pastime that Mental Health care must be treated the same as physical health care. It is way pastime. To see this over and over again and not just kaiser, we see it in other areas as well. And i want to thank the clinicians too who came up and spoke of their experience, and i think its alicia, i just wanted to hug you and tell you its not your fault, and thank you for staying and trying to change the system from within. And to the woman who talked about losing her father, it was a jolt when you said that and i want to say im sorry for your loss. We dont have to do that to people. We have to find a way to make people deliver on the promises they make when they say we are going to take care of you bottom line. And again, i want to thank you supervisor ronen. I actually did want to thank, i wanted to ask abby again a few questions, and im going to turn that into one question because weve been here a long time. And i dont even know if you are the appropriate person to answer this. It might be a department of Public Health question, but the fact that we are having people go outside of kaiser to get help, i wonder how many going to our county Behavioral Health system as to the San Francisco health plan of San Francisco, if we track that, and what is that spill over effect and are we billing kaiser, are they paying us for that . You dont have to answer that, but if you have any idea because we need to get some monetary idea about how this is affecting our health plan. Supervisor ronen has been managing that and i dont think much has happened and assume it is the same. Thank you very much for that. Supervisor eric mar thank you, president walton. I had a few reactions to this very important and powerful hearing that we just heard. Thank you very much supervisor ronen for calling it. I want to thank the folks that shared personal stories including my colleagues and some speakers from the audience. And my own personal stories, my teenage daughter needed Mental Health care and it took her two months and took too long to get a followup appointment and she gave up. Fortunately, she is doing okay but i know this year is so important, so urgent, and even more so coming out of the pandemic experience and trauma that especially young people have faced. And also i have been a kaiser member most of my life as a kid growing up in sacramento, a kaiser kid, a new term, and now here in San Francisco with my family and have always been satisfied and even pretty impressed by kaiser as a provider, and pretty innovative and forward thinking on health care provider, but this situation thats been happening and kaisers stubbornness to really respond to this crisis in Mental Health care in their system has really changed my perspective at kaiser and i think its also hurting kaisers public image beyond and i know they take a lot of pride in and i want to send that message. Thanks to all the kaiser Mental Health workers that spoke today, that showed up to this hearing and who have been on the picket line on strike for the longest Mental Health worker strike in history. As a former labor worker myself, i know how challenging strikes are and to be as powerful, thank you guys, you are so amazing. I look forward to, i think there are some good ideas that serve us from this hearing. We need to get Governor Newsom really step up to use his Political Capital to get kaiser to do the right thing and we need to look at our Health Service system given that we are spending nearly 500 million a year and paying to kaiser for health care and we need to use that to hold kaiser more accountable and the other providers. Thank you. Thank you, supervisor mar. Supervisor chan . Supervisor connie chan thank you, president walton. I first want to thank everyone who came out here to share your personal story. As a supervisor, i live out of richmond and going through kaiser on gary boulevard has been my routine for going to work to city hall, and its been months that i have to actually not just with our Mental Health Service Workers but also our nurses, our station engineer 39 and just for months standing with you, all of you in front of kaiser but also driving by and honking and trying to encourage the workers. I think that as an employer, there is an issue with kaiser as an employer. There is a problem with the way they are treating their workers, all workers and i think that is something to be said for all the workers to come together because there was even a sympathy strike not too long ago and yet still here we are. I think that there is one critical element that was very different when we held our hearing at the Government Audit Oversight Committee and now that we have the passage of s. B. 221, a state law, that is really requiring to actually have a Mental Health appointment within two weeks of the initial contact and that has been effective since july of this year. I think this question is more for director yann, and i want to commend her work and i have seen her work at the Mental Health Services Board and i know her and her team have been working hard for our city workers that provides coverage not just for kaiser but all Health Service providers for our workers. Since the s. B. 221, has been effective, have we sent out notices to city workers letting them know their rights . Meaning, we know about s. B. 221. Yes, no, we have not done that. I think that perhaps its helpful that we send out a notice citywide letting our workers know of their rights. That they can complain, and to us, as a city, that if they are in need of appointment and not getting it within two weeks. We can consider that. I think we already have a hotline already. So we can send out our notification. Its late and im not thinking real clearly of exactly how we could execute this that wouldnt cause more questions. Get the in the middle between a plan and a member is not generally a good thing to do. Thats what the caution light is which is how we ensure that message is delivered. It cannot be us but ensure the message is delivered. I think thats our part to inform our city workers of their rights at the least that this new law has been effective since july 1st of this year. I think for the very least our workers who really work hard and pay for they are care should really at least be notified of their rights. Thank you so much. I think thats the first thing that i would love to see. Second part what is for the District Attorney because i know i did that a couple weeks ago at gao. I think im just constantly amazed at people disrespecting this body when we, when i say people, i mean those like kaiser or people that wouldnt want to answer tough questions and answer to their calls for responsibilities. When this board trying to make the process very transparent for a public hearing. I know that we have the power of subpoena. I think she knows where im heading because i asked to subpoena the navy last time and now of course im asking, thanks to supervisor peskin that we can do that at gao committee and here we are as a whole as a body. In the event that kaiser is in violation of s. B. 221, because they are not providing the Service Within two weeks of time with the mandate of the service, and especially in the case that we do find any violation, what can we do to really make sure that kaiser do show up in the event that we decide to continue this hearing so that we can have another opportunity. Will there be a possibility for kaiser to show up if there is a need . Deputy City Attorney, the board rules address the board issues a subpoena as well as the gao committees. The full board may by motion direct the clerk for a subpoena. The language is different in the gao to authorize that and it has been by a written motion where it was agendaized and the public can comment on it. I would advise you of the procedure and what it appears like if it were to be an enforcement. Thank you. I would like to just make my final comment. Thank you to all workers. It is shameful that i know we say kaiser is a nonprofit, but its not. Its a model that is actually not working for patients, its not working for our workers. It is its certainly working for the pockets of the executives who have been profiting quite a bit for quite some time now on the backs of the patients and on the backs of our workers at the expenses as we can see today from just heartbreaking stories. They are not just stories, they are real human lives. I think that is very unfortunate that kaiser, im ashamed to say this but its true that they are putting profits before people and its shameful and if we could as a city, we should exercise our rights and inform our workers of their rights to report their Service Provider could be in violation, and i think if we could especially when we do identify a violation that we ought to subpoena Kaiser Permanente to come before this body to answer why they are violating this state law at the expenses of our workers Mental Health. Thank you. Thank you. Im going to close this hearing by sending a message to kaiser executives who failed to show up tonight because if you would have showed up, you would have heard your own workers, your own employees spend a significant amount of time apologizing to their patients for your negligence. If you were here, you would have heard your workers, your employees telling you how they are forced to violate their own ethical and licensed guidelines because of your negligence. If you were here, you would have heard from your own workers that they have been forced to strike for seven weeks without pay, terrified for the wellbeing of their patients because you have ignored their pleas for decades. You blame the fact that there isnt enough therapist out there, that there isnt a big enough workforce to provide the needed care of your patients, but it would appear to this body that its your own action, the way that you treat your employees that make it impossible for you to hire. That only the most dedicated of dedicated workers many of you who are here tonight, would put their own Mental Health and wellbeing on the line and work for you because of a love for the patients. I want you to understand and you heard from many of our colleagues tonight that we are not done. We are not giving up. We are going to continue to join your workers on the picket line, on the strike line. We are going to do everything in our power including open a resolution next week to this board demanding that Governor Newsom get out from behind his desk and get involved in resolving this strike and making sure that patients in california, the Biggest Health care provider in the state get the right to Mental Health, timely Mental Health services. We are going figure out if we have legislate it as our employees have to pick out the cheapest option during open enrollment that they might understand that its not the cheapest when they have to pay for Mental Health services and perhaps go to one of your competitors to provide better care. And i think that was a great idea and from my family and your own that families have to pay for outside Mental Health services because we can afford it. Lets find out how much they are paying for Mental Health services when this city is paying half a billion dollars a year to your corporation to provide those services. Finally, it is time for this city to enact to office a private Health Care Insurance accountability, a law that is passed in 2019 unanimously by this board of supervisors in Mental Health sf that will do exactly what supervisor chan was suggesting. This office was meant to be an advocate for the general public when you are not getting the services you deserve from your private health care insurers. We have just begun. You might have escaped coming to this hearing and listening to the elected representatives of the city and county of San Francisco today. You might have the escaped listening to your coworkers, and we are not even close to done with this fight. With that, president walton, i would like to make a motion to file this hearing. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you, do we need a motion to file it . Clerk thats correct, mr. President. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you. This hearing has been heard and now filed. What i would like to say is the board will also issue to the clerk a memo to kaiser explaining our dis pleasure for them not coming out today. We appreciate your continued support. We appreciate you coming. It has been a long meeting tonight. Madam clerk, please take us back to item 32. 32. 220871 [appointments, Inclusionary Housing Technical Advisory Committee peter cohen, fernando marti, Whitney Jones, and shannon way] motion appointing peter cohen residency requirement waived , fernando marti, whitney supervisor melgar . Supervisor myrna melgar thank you. I would like to split the file and continue the vote on fernando, Whitney Jones and shannon. And would like to make the motion to send the complicated file or the split files with mr. Peter cohens name. Personal privilege to do so. Thank you, supervisor. Thank you clerk. Supervisor aaron peskin i dont oppose the split of the file and im happy to vote on the recommendation of the rules committee for mr. Marty, mr. Jones and the balance of what remains in the second vote. Unless there are any other statements, madam clerk, lets vote on item 32 in terms of fernando marti, Whitney Jones and shannon clerk [roll call] there are 11 ayes. Thank you madam clerk, the item to be filed and removing mr. Kohen. Thank you. I want to put this in context. In about 2001, then supervisor mark leno passed and authored San Franciscos first inclusionary housing law at 10 for Residential Structures of 10 or more units, and that evolved over time to a higher percentage. It was always a dynamic number depending on markets, cost of construction. In 2012, unfortunately that number at 12 was ensconced in the city charter and became frozen and if there were opportunities to retain housing, it was 26 and if cost went through the roof, there was no way to bring that number down and it remained a static number and in 2017 we offered a Charter Amendment and return that to the province of the executive and legislature and we offered an addition to that charter by ordinance to create this Technical Advisory Committee staff controller of San Francisco and the mayor appointed four members of San Francisco, mayor lee and board of supervisors appointed four individuals, and they did really a very good job on a very controversial issue. Mind you their work product is entirely by this board of supervisors but it was done with the framework brought to us and supervisor safai was present in that and ms. Lee was part of that and the process worked. Then came covid and the world kind of shutdown for a couple years and i think we are all in agreement to revisit these numbers that should not remain static. To that end, at the beginning of june of this year, the mayor albeit she did not actually in anyway convey that to the board of supervisors appointed four individuals to the Technical Advisory Committee. That i learned about that through the press. Supervisor safai asked me why we hadnt gotten around to it and i was wasnt afoot to reintegrate this task but was all for it and we put it out for the public and anybody could apply. We got four applications for four seats. Thankfully three of those applicants were original participants in the 2016 pac and they went through that and they discharged their duties as professionals who know about performance in the Affordable Housing quite well. The rules Committee Recommended those four individuals including the three original members that consisted of mr. Cohen, ms. Way. And i would encourage the Technical Advisory Committee to get to work and the last time i checked which was yesterday, there are no other applicants that have applied. It is quite likely the rules committee would do exactly what it did based on the qualifications and experience of this individual mr. Cohen and work to get this Technical Advisory Committee to work. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you, supervisor peskin, just real quick. The file is split. Do we need a motion . Clerk the motion is required. Im sorry, you were both talking at the same time. I do not understand. Supervisor Shamann Walton the file was split. I thought i made that motion. Sorry, we needed to separate the two requests. You can divide. It is your single pleasure to do so but we would need that. I didnt capture the second. Supervisor safai, you are the second . Thank you. Thank you, supervisor melgar. Supervisor myrna melgar thank you, president walton. I just wanted to give a little bit more information about why i wanted to do this. I understand supervisor peskins need for continuity and history and that is valuable. We are giving this applicant waiver from the residency requirement. Thus we are saying for our most pressing issue which is housing in San Francisco, we cant find someone who meets that requirement in San Francisco who can do this, and i am a Firm Believer in diversity and recruitment and that it takes a little bit more effort to recruit people who have been historically not included in these conversations. I do think that we can make a little bit more effort to get someone who has been involved in the housing movement. You know my preference of course would be a woman and woman of color. I think we have many people like that and perhaps you are right, supervisor peskin, that opening it up and will not yield any other candidates, but i dont believe that is the case. Let me say there is another applicant who also received that waiver and that is shannon way and i think that is a little bit different because her expertise is in Home Ownership and an organization that i was one of the founders of and we founded that organization because specifically there was a lack of capacity in lowincome homeowners in San Francisco where we founded it and there were five organizations and now only down to four. I standby my request. I think that you as chair of the rules committee can schedule this quickly and expeditiously so that we can move on. Thank you. Thank you, supervisor melgar. Supervisor ronen . Supervisor Hillary Ronen i wanted to state that i was prepared to vote to send it back to committee if we are not going to have a full discussion today. If we are going to have a full discussion anyway, im prepared to vote on the applicant. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you. Supervisor peskin . Supervisor aaron peskin yes, i wont be supporting to send it back and i dont understand the basis for it and will say that this is, i think i have been critical often of appointments not from this body but of appointments that lack the expertise for the seats they are taking and we have many many commissions and task forces that are filled with those and this is the polar opposite. Im a bit as the very strange to me that we would need more time to consider peter cohen who is wellknown to the board and provided expertise and one of the top experts around these very issues, and i think we are lucky that someone of his caliber wants to serve on this technical committee, and not really understanding the basis of more time when its already been vetted and recommended by the committee. Thank you so much, supervisor peskin. Madam clerk, would you call on the motion to send this file back to committee. Clerk on the motion to send this file back to committee. [roll call] there are four ayes and 7 nos with supervisors mar, peskin, ronen and mar, mandelman in the dissent. Thank you very much. The motion fails. Supervisor melgar. Supervisor myrna melgar thank you, president walton. So i had hoped that we were going to get to this point. I had hoped that we were going to send this back to committee. My intent was not to actually air this out. I have had a long history like some of you have and i will tell you that we all experience things differently based on who we are, what we look like, what we present. I have found this applicant to have really problematic interactions with women, with me specifically when it comes to dealing with you know, just the interaction, the bullying and talking over people. I dont want to give leadership position to someone who will not be welcoming the voices of others. This is a very contentious issue right now for this city. This issue of inclusionary goes to the heart of development and how we are going to do development. While i trust the other three applicants and that they will serve as well in negotiating something, i want to make sure that we create bodies where there is progress that is done, where voices who have been under represented are heard, and respected, and i cannot vote for this applicant. Thank you. Thank you, supervisor melgar. Seeing no one else, madam clerk, we will go on the original item with peter cohen. Clerk the vote is shall peter cohen be a member of this committee. [roll call] there are seven ayes and four nos, with supervisor melgar, safai, dorsey in the dissent. Thank you. This motion is approved. Madam clerk, please call item no. 33 and 34 together. 33. 220905 [mayoral reappointment, Planning Commission Rachael Tanner] motion approving the mayoral nomination for the reappointment of Rachael Tanner to the Planning Commission, for a term ending june 30, 2026. clerk of the board 34. 220906 [mayoral appointment, Planning Commission derek braun] motion approving the mayoral nomination for the appointment of derek braun to the Planning Commission, for a term ending june 30, 2026. clerk of the board supervisor aaron peskin this is an odd request but given the information from the last couple days, i ask that you also call items 35, 36 and 37. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you. That works for me. Madam clerk, can you also include items 35, 36 and 37. Clerk 35. 220936 [mayoral reappointment, Public Utilities commission Sophie Maxwell] motion approving the mayors nomination for the reappointment of Sophie Maxwell to the Public Utilities commission, for a term ending august 1, 2026. 36. 220937 [mayoral appointment, Public Utilities commission newsha ajami] motion approving the mayors nomination for the appointment of newsha ajami to the Public Utilities commission, for a term ending august 1, 2024. clerk of the board 37. 220939 [mayoral appointment, Public Utilities commission tony rivera] motion approving the mayors nomination for the appointment of tony rivera to the Public Utilities commission, for a term ending august 1, 2024. clerk of the board thank you. Im not sure how long this will take. Do you want to cover the other item . Not at this time. I have a lot of thoughts of what we have come to learn over the last couple days and appreciate the fact that earlier today we received an email from the Mayors Office setting forth all of the letters of resignation undated that they have gotten from individuals appointed by the mayor to various commissions and we are also in receipt of legal advice that i believe is public legal advice from the City Attorneys Office as to this practice, and all of this said, acknowledging that the mayor has ended this practice, and has returned all of the a for aforementioned Resignation Letters and i understand this is the practice of many mayors. I dont know that to be true. I had lunch with former mayor brown that it was not true under his resignation but who knows but that was his representation. The practice is troubling but its not as simple as it seems. I think in a city like San Francisco, we vote for a mayor and we invest our hopes and dreams and the mayors ability to deliver on those things, and in this city for a century we had a diffuse, well not unique in this system of government where we endeavor to get a broad sector of the population in some cases subject Matter Experts and some cases people who are not necessarily required to be subject Matter Experts but bring a diverse set of opinions and oversight over different departments. And so, these are dealt with in different ways under the charter. Section 3. 100 of the charter sub section 18, clearly says that there are a swath of commissions where the mayor can appoint, they do not come to the board of supervisors for approval. The board does have and it is rarely rarely used. I have seen it used handful of times in 22 years the ability to reject one of those appointments, and that is the vast majority of the mayors appointments to commissions. As setforth in the letters and there is in the charter and particularly when willie brown was mayor voted a number of times to amend the charter to give that second ballot and there was in the police commission, Planning Commission, the 1960s to the Port Commission understate law, and in those cases as one of San Franciscos best attorneys said today, that really is the end run around the legislative check and balance around the board of supervisors and that is troubling. When you are a member of the public and going to the Planning Commission and you think you are getting a fair hearing but it turns out that maybe if a commissioner votes the wrongway, not that they even need to be told how to vote but because they have that over their head, people are left with less trust in government and that is a problem. Then the even more troubling ones and those are the adequacy judicial bodies where they are really tantamount to court. As a matter of fact, when i was president , i appointed mandel man to the board of appeals and that was a legislative body and when i recommended to president walton, and he spoke of his ability to be fair and unbiased. He is a member of the bar. He understood the role of a quasi judicial and he went out of his way to emphasize that he would be independent of his appointing authority independent of the board of supervisors and would discharge the duties upon which he was about to enter. So its very troubling to me in the case of quasi judicial appointments. I think that im not sure what im recommending to you colleagues. I am glad that practice has been exposed. I am glad the practice has stopped. I also want to note that there is no rhyme or reason to the practice which is kind of mind boggling. For instance and thank you for reading the three members of the three nominees to the Public Utilities commission which by the rules Committee Recommended for approval. These three and i called all three of them yesterday were not asked nor did they sign a Resignation Letter. But it is revealed today that the other member of the body did. How does that work . We have in items 32 and 33 two appointments to the Planning Commission, one of them was asked to sign, one of them was not. But we just found out that two of the remaining members of the commission have. So i dont understand the rhyme or reason to this as the whole episode as a longstanding member of a legislative body who absolutely believes in and celebrates the separation that we inherited from the coy nations of the state that im in trouble. I feel bad about our airport workers but im told not to feel bad. Please do not feel bad. This is a long hearing and we made a point that we added our airport workers to this long agenda. Definitely apologize for the long night but definitely tell you not to feel bad. Thank you. I will be addressed in roll call in more substance the Resignation Letter and part of the response to it and will be hopefully shedding more light on this in the upcoming days and will learn a lot from media and public records act request that have come out. But i do share the concern, im not exactly sure what the path forward is, but i will say with these five agenda items, i feel very uncomfortable with moving nominees forward and appointments forward with this cloud and really there is a lot of questions unanswered. So i would just say that i think that and supervisor peskin, you touched on this. The use of these undated Resignation Letters, i think is a huge problem. I dont think there is much disagreement on that when we have read the public City Attorney memo on that. I think it calls into question the independence of appointees, i think it certainly undermines the trust of our commissions right now and certainly we can restore that trust but we have a lot of questions to answer. I think we have as a body or task with ovaries oversight and we need to task this and we need clarity on the extent of the practice and different treatment of different appointees before i think we can confidently approve mayoral appointees. I did reach out as well to Planning Commissioners and did hear back that one requested to sign one of these undated resignation forms and in fact returned it and the other one was not. Here we have two nominees coming before the board, same appointing authority, the mayor. Same time, same commission they are being appointed to and yet one is asked to sign an undated Resignation Letter and the other is not. Why is that . I think the board and the public deserve to know that before we confirm these appointments. I want to emphasize it is not about the merit of any of these commissioners or any before us but the fact that unfortunately for them, their nomination is coming before us just days after a major scandal has broken that uncovered the secret practice that is highly problematic and inconsistent with the charter. Its inconvenient and i look forward to try to figure out what the path forward is and inconvenient for the nominees, the bodies they serve on but i think any such inconvenience is not created by this board. Its created by this practice of this appointing authority. I believe and maybe the City Attorney can clarify for us but i believe, i think normally i would just suggest that we continue all these. Get more information through the letters of inquiry and hearing that i will be announcing at roll call and the media and hopefully be able to vote on them. But i understand that procedurally that may be problematic with some of the Planning Commissioners. Those are my thoughts, thank you. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you, supervisor preston. Supervisor chan, real quick, supervisor preston, were you trying to hear a response . I think its more of a question on my mind. Supervisor connie chan thank you. I do want to thank the Mayors Office and certainly paulina who is here on behalf of the mayor that to share the letters with us, the undated find Resignation Letters in question so that we understand that there is not at least i think about 40 or so letters that were signed and undated. Just im going to see this from a perspective of what the benefit of doubt that perhaps there seems to be maybe some kind of question of the appointees. Is it their qualifications, is it their judgment that end up deciding that the selected appointees for ask or undated letter, perhaps there is some explanation why the selected individuals were asked to sign these letters while others were not. Paulina, the Mayors Office. One is in answer to your question why one was asked to sign the letter and one was not. It is my understanding it was the mayors discretion on who would be signing this letter on a case by case basis. If i may, i totally understand its case by case, but is there sort of a reasoning or standard of why . Like how does the mayor herself judge, it sounds to me that these decisions were made specifically only by the mayor herself. And then with her being the final arbitrator of these requests, what is her reasoning for these individuals . What is her threshold . It would be under the circumstances that under dire situation where they are uncab capable of their duty as far as posting and as far as a commissioner for criterion for that, im not familiar with but its a mayors case by case situation. Im sorry, you are saying that all of these were decided by the mayors themselves. The appointees were asked to sign the letters . Correct. Decided by the mayor alone but you are not sure what is the criteria . No. I think this is a practice that is in question but i think these are strong applicants and im inclined to get these to be let on to continue their work. I cannot confirm as to this practice, but i would vote on them and let them start their work and this body can study with the mayor over these self inflicted wounds with these Resignation Letters. Thank you. Supervisor melgar . Supervisor myrna melgar thank you, supervisor walton. I agree about this problematic practice. It is embarrassing. I will also say that delaying these appointments would be punishing these applicants for something that they were already done something wrong to. Im not for that. I will also say on a very practical level. I sat on the Planning Commission when we were down to two people and we couldnt go to the bathroom and that is a very long meeting. As a practical way, they need to be seated. I see no fault with these applicants. So im ready to vote on them today. Thank you, supervisor melgar. Supervisor stefan . Thank you. The Planning Commission cant function without these two. This is in two weeks. So we are really going to hold up the Planning Commission its a bad issue and we can beat that resignation to death in another hearing, but to hold these nominees seems unsensical to me. I will not be supporting this. Thank you. Clerk mr. President , a point of clarification on items 33 and 34. Today is the last day for the board to have jurisdiction on these two items. Its important for the body to know that we would lose jurisdiction if they were continued. Thank you, madam clerk. You just took a lot of my speech away. Supervisor Hillary Ronen i would like for these nominees to move forward but im disturbed about what i heard from mr. Paulino because i wasnt aware that one of the applicants was asked to sign a Resignation Letter and one of them was not, and that this happens at the discretion of the mayor. That just automatically brings up a ton of questions that i dont know unless we can get the mayor on the line and ask why ms. Tanner was not asked to sign a Resignation Letter and mr. Brown was. We have no idea what her sort of criteria is. Does she feel like ms. Tanner will never disagree with her even if its not her own personal belief to vote one way or another, but that mr. Brown has an independent streak and that needs to be reigned in. I simply dont know. So, we are all being placed between a rock and hard place here. I have a question for the City Attorney because like supervisors melgar, stefan and mandelman, i came here prepared to vote to confirm their appointment. If we voted them down because we are forced to vote on it today and if we understand the mayors use in the past to request or not a Resignation Letter, could she then just reappoint them and then we could expeditiously bring them back to committee for a vote. You certainly could. You can bring them back to the planning. If you voted to not approve them, you can vote for them and send them through the process again. Assuming she did expect them to be voted for. Can she continue serving on the commission until we act, or when is her Expiration Date . I dont know when her Expiration Date. Supervisor Shamann Walton i dont believe she currently signed it. They are down two commissioners. I understand supervisor melgars point about that as well. Thank you. Supervisor ahsha safai the thing that is concerning me the most is Planning Commission is currently down, although commissioner tanner was serving. Her term expired. We havent had the ability to reappoint her. Some of that has to do with the hearing schedule here and now we are being confronted with that again and we have one other hearing in october because of the holidays. In the month of october, we have two. So we have a very short window. Personally there was a vote at the Planning Commission that i believe if there had been the seats there and commissioners there, the vote might have gone differently. Its impacting our decisions as it relates to housing, its impacting the decisions that we need to make to move forward. So being down two commissioners is not a good thing for our city or the Planning Commission in general. I guess i have a question to the City Attorney. Is there anything that we have not thought about in terms of the need to act within 60 days or they are automatically deemed approved. Could the mayor voluntarily withdraw the names and resubmit them to be heard again in an expeditious manner . Im just curious, is there something that emanates from the appointing body, because i too am as a former commissioner, i will tell you i was never asked to sign a Resignation Letter and i worked under mr. Newsom and mayor lee. Im also concerned about this body being able to function. Is there anything we have not thought about, City Attorney, through the board present . I have been giving this some thought and im afraid i havent come up with other options. The 60 day deadline is in the charter and before you. I dont know if the mayor were to withdraw them now, that they would come off the agenda. I would have to refer to the clerk on that question. We would have to discuss this in general on this practice. I do believe having the Planning Commission seated is extremely important for our city and not having it be vacant. So i will be supporting the appointment of the Planning Commissioners today. Are we under the same timeline for the Public Utilities commissioners . So those we can continue. The board could at its authority, right . I see the City Attorney nodding yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Supervisor mar . Supervisor eric mar thank you, president walton. Im also concerned about this revelation about the mayor asking certain appointees to sign a letter in advance. We have to have questions answered from the mayor and look into this situation, but i also see a lot of urgency to fill the vacant Planning Commission seats because of the work they do on weekly basis and updating this general plan on the Housing Element and the resilient safety element. I will be supporting them because they were vetted by the rules committee. Thank you, mr. Mar. I do want to say, i hope you all remember this dilemma was not caused by the 11 of us. We are not the reason to this dilemma right now to why the Planning Commission may not have a full. We are not the reason why the Planning Commission is both at their end right now. That is not on us. We did not cause this dilemma. To the standpoint of the legislative body, i dont think its our dilemma to have to fix. I personally wanted to say that out loud. One of this issues is and supervisor mandelman, i hear you that this is not on the appointees and i did hear from mr. Paulino and he said the mayor chooses to have people sign at her discretion and we dont have a measuring stick or rubric of what the reason or those purpose are. How do know, one of these nominees is not a bad nominee or good nominee. What information do we have to make a decision like that. I dont think its arbitrary because the mayor by his own team, someone may do something that is not appropriate. I dont want to say it is not that arbitrary but i will say that it is problematic that we dont have a full Planning Commission that is seated right now and that is a problem for all of us. But i want to be clear that it is not our fault that we are having that dilemma right now and i dont think necessarily that its our job to fix that. We do have two separate issues that the clerk made clear. One, we can vote on all of the commissioners for the puc, two, we can continue those to get the full conversation. We can support 33 and 34, for the Planning Commission, or we can do what we have no other choice but to not vote for them right now and they could be renominated by the executive branch. Those are the options and choices we have right now. Deputy peterson was very clear on the options before us. I just want to state for the record one last time. The dilemmas that we are faced with are not caused by the board of supervisors. Supervisor chan . Supervisor connie chan thank you, president walton. While i have questions about the Resignation Letter request, i want to say though as a member of the rules committee, whenever that is a mayoral appointee coming to the board, i look through their resume, i look through their 700 form, i look through for some that i have conversations directly myself and some that im very fortunate to have my team to sort of have those conversations with these appointees. One way or another, we do our work to verify and vet these candidates that come before us at rules committee, and to me as a member. I think that you have seen before that for me, i spoke on candidates that i did not agree with and think is good. And i have supported candidates that i had reservations but im going to remain open minded. But i would say if i may as a members of rules committee and voted in support of all these appointees that are before us today, thats how i vetted them knowing this practice or not. So im going to still standby my vote from rules committee, and im still in support of these appointees today. I just want you all to know that because i dont think that vetting, i think it is our job to vet these candidates no matter how they come to us. My assumption is sure, the mayor has her own criterias of how she views these appointees, but thats her criterias, and for the most part to be told, i dont really know how she picked them anyway. Whether with the Resignation Letter request or not. And so i know that it is my job as a member of the rules committee to vet them independently on my own and make that call to you colleagues to say this is a recommendation or i agree with or i dont. So today, im still going to standby my vote from rules committee. I still urge your support and recommend them. I support their recommendation and appointment today. Thank you. Thank you, supervisor chan. Supervisor peskin . Supervisor aaron peskin thank you, president walton. I will say this is not a good position to be put in. The reason we are up this deadline is because they were submitted july 9th. We were no longer in session. So there went the first month of our 60 days. And we scheduled it right up after the legislative recess. So the timing was not something that we created. The timing was created because these individuals expired sometime guy and the mayor waited until after their terms expired. I wanted to put that on the record. They could have been submitted early in may, but they were submitted after their terms expired which is unfortunate. I mean there is a lot more questions. I really feel badly to say that one more time. Here is a question, mr. Paulino. We dont know, were there people that would have been appointed but werent appointed because they didnt sign the oath, did some sign it, i dont know . Paulino, Mayors Office. There was no appointment to the commission where their declining of submitting an undated letter of the commission would result in them not getting an appointment. Using anybody who had submitted an undated Resignation Letter was never used in the last four years under this mayor. Right, but was it on holdover peoples head and you dont have to answer but there were revealed messages that if we he did not vote a certain way there would be consequences that would only lead to the rational person to the letter that they signed . Particularly with commissioner, he also said he was told that letter was for extreme purposes and as to supervisor chans question a dereliction of duty or under other circumstances. I think the vote as to what supervisor mar and what he said and clearly the majority of the board, the good news is to uphold the unanimous recommendation of the rules committee. I have to say as someone of the rules committee. I read the form 700s, i read the forms and commission. I do have a sense of betrayal that someone says im participating in the end run around the legislative authority created in the charter by the voters to the board of supervisors. I find that to be deeply disturbing. I also just want to bring up something that did occur in committee as it relates to not to the puc commissioners but as it relates to the Planning Commissioners as it relates that nobody goes to Ethics School and nobody goes to school to learn how to be a commissioner or make a motion or what authority they have and in many cases they are led to believe that they have Less Authority than is granted to them under the charter. And to that end, it is very important that commissioners know that commissioners secretary works for and at the pleasure of a commission. That has not been the dynamic as of late or maybe for longer than late at the Planning Commission where the Commission Secretary and this has been repeatedly documented has treated the members of the Planning Commission including accusations of booing as though he is actually there boss as the other way around. We made that very clear to mr. Brown and to ms. Tanner about this behavior, about in the absence of a full commission where the vicepresident who is a board appointee became president and the City Attorney has been made aware of this and it is the secretarys response to control the agenda, not the other way around. This is the law, respect it but dont go to change it and the same is true with Resignation Letters. With that, i see where we are going and very much want to hear from our friends at the airport and why dont we just unless supervisor preston, you have a different view. Supervisor dean preston there is no real reason that mr. Braun may not be able to to exercise his duties. Well get more info at some point about what guides that discretion. But i appreciate supervisor peskin raising the situation. I feel a little bit like missing from this is we got pretty good evidence so far that this stuff is held over at least with commissioner carter or over stone that this is going to be appearing in front of any commission. I think what i would suggest to some of my colleagues who are inclined to support this is i think some of you are assuming that the Planning Commission cannot meet if we do not appoint these folks and thats not the case. They have a quorum. They have a quorum. So, i would like clarification to one thing if we were to move on. If were to vote no on the Planning Commissioners and the mayor would reappoint, how soon can this come back to rules. If she would reappoint them tomorrow, what is the timeframe here . We are having a meeting october 3rd and october 10th. I feel like this idea of somehow us exercising our over power here, making sure we have some confidence on what the heck is going on and its not grinding the Planning Commission to a halt. I would consider that. There is not a chance in hell that rules committee would not forward this recommendation to us. There is no chance that this would even be before us. So why are we letting this go through. I would urge to vote no on 33 and 34 and continue with 35, 36 and 37. Thank you. Supervisor Catherine Stefani thank you, president walton. We did not make this mess but all work for the city and county of San Francisco and there are a lot of messes that we dont make but we have to clean up. When the police mess up, we have to clean up, when we have rules that we have to legislate, when dph messes up, we have to clean it up. Thats what we do. To say they have a quorum, the president now supervisor just said it would be hard for them to go to the bathroom. We need a functioning Planning Commission. There is no reason why the Resignation Letter issue takes away from the qualities of these individuals that the rules committee unanimously approved. So in my opinion, we do have an obligation to make sure that the Planning Commission is functioning, that other commissions are functioning and i think that this is just a little bit more of the political theatre and we absolutely have an obligation to vote on behalf of all san franciscans and make sure that we are delivering on a function will Planning Commission and other commissions, thank you. Thank you, supervisor stefan. Seeing no one on the roster, do we need a motion to do Something Different or voting on items 3237 . Seeing none. Madam clerk, please call items 3337. Clerk [roll call] mr. President , given the fact that as to 32 and 33, we have to act today. Real quick. Nobody made a motion. Can we hear them separately. 33 and 34. You can. However you were the person who asked to hear them altogether. I would like to vote on 33 and 34 separately from 3537. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you, supervisor preston. Madam clerk, please call the roll on items 33 and 34. Clerk [roll call] there are 8 ayes and 3 nos with peskin and walton and mar in the dissent. Please call items 35, 36 and 37. Supervisor aaron peskin i would like to make a motion to continue item 35, 36 and 37. Supervisor Shamann Walton on the motion to continue. Clerk on the motion to continue items 3537 to october 18, 2022. [roll call] there are four ayes and 7 nos, with supervisors melgar, safai, stefan, walton, chan and mandel mandelman on dissent. You said melgar on the dissent. Supervisor melgar, i have you marked as a no. Thank you, madam clerk, by a vote of 47, the motion to continue fails. Madam clerk, please call the roll on items 35, 36 and 37. Clerk on items 3537. One moment. Supervisor chan . Supervisor connie chan my apologies, the motion to continue has failed because we need eight votes to continue . We need 6. I thought that was four to 7. We need six votes to continue. Four votes for it. My apologies. It is late. Madam clerk, items 3537. Clerk [roll call] there are 10 ayes and one no with supervisor preston in the dissent. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you and by a vote of 101, these motions are approved. Madam clerk, i think we have let our airport workers on hold long enough. Are we taking Public Comment on whether this body should sit as a committee of the whole. Clerk item 47 is a motion 47. 221009 [committee of the whole food and beverage worker wages and benefits at sfo and Operational Impact of an imminent strike september 27, 2022, at 3 00 p. M. ] sponsors mandelman; walton motion scheduling the board of supervisors to sit as a committee of the whole on september 27, 2022, at 3 00 p. M. , to hold a public hearing on food and beverage worker wages and benefits at the San Francisco International Airport sfo and the Operational Impact of an imminent strike on the traveling public, employees at sfo, and the citys revenue from concessions at the airport; and requesting the sfo airport director, the multiEmployer Group sfo restaurants, and representatives from unite here local 2 to attend. 09 20 2022; referred for adoption without Committee Reference agenda at the next supervisor Shamann Walton lets hear Public Comment. On the item, well hear from anyone who wants to speak on whether or not the body should sit. If you are interested on that, please lineup on the side of the room. I dont see anyone. Thank you. Well go to the remote system where we have mr. Atkins who is checking if there are any remote attendees. As i stated at the beginning of this meeting, the interpreters must leave at 8 00 p. M. Do we have anyone in the queue . Public speaker good evening, my name is cheryl barton, i worked at the airport around not much has changed. Im pausing your time. If you wouldnt mind, this Public Comment period is whether or not the body should hear this matter. I think this body has shown they want to sitting and we will have that hearing as soon as we close this Public Comment session. Will you wait and provide that information again . Yeah, now im saying they should establish this committee as the whole. Thank you, when you call in, well give you two minutes. Thank you, cheryl. Mr. Atkins, is there anyone else . Madam clerk, there are no other callers in the queue. Thank you. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you, madam clerk. Public comment is now closed. On item 47, madam clerk, please call the roll. Clerk [roll call] there are 10 ayes. Thank you, this resolution is filled. Please call item 40. 40. 221010 [hearing committee of the whole food and beverage worker wages and benefits at sfo and Operational Impact of an imminent strike september 27, 2022, at 3 00 p. M. ] sponsors mandelman; walton hearing of the board of supervisors sitting as a committee of the whole on tuesday, september 27, 2022, at 3 00 p. M. , to hold a public hearing on food and beverage worker wages and benefits at the San Francisco International Airport sfo and the Operational Impact of an imminent strike on the traveling public, employees at sfo, and the citys revenue from concessions at the airport; and requesting the sfo airport director, the multiEmployer Group sfo restaurants, and representatives from unite here supervisor Shamann Walton i would like to apologize to the workers for waiting so long. Thank you for being here. Thank you. This committee on the hold for the food and wages and the impacts on the current strike on sfo employees and concessions at the airport. Board president walton and i called for this hearing because the workers are important to San Francisco and sfo is the way for city travelers and important that this city runs efficiently for the traveling public and the businesses. Its invested in restoring Public Confidence in the safety of air travel. Sfo is the workplace for many City Residents and we care about their working conditions and workers are fighting for a living wage after not seeing wages increase for four years. Local 2 has noted that a single meal costs more than what a worker makes in an hour. As you heard yesterday, the beverage and food workers went on strike after this stalled eight months in. Although the city is not a party to this suit, it is concerned. Last friday, the unions held a civil disobedience action outside of terminal 3 at sfo, hundreds of workers pictured and including two of our own members, mar and chan. The board has a long interest in the wages of workers at the airport that bears the San Francisco name. We have constituted for airports and their families and we routinely approve leases with various lessees for space in the terminals and authorize rent relief for many of those concessionaires. I know its important for each of us and important for our constituents that our airport and tenants operate in a way that is consistent with our citys values. We are going to hear this evening from unit local 2 and workers and well hear from the airport and i believe we have representatives from the Employer Group as well. First i would like to invite president of unite local 2, Lauren Powell and four strikers lucynda and thank you. I would like to ask if its okay if we go in a different order and invite the strikers first. I would like to Say Something for the committee of the whole were it not for committee after waiting here for hours started their picket shifts early in the morning is a little disrespectful. What you will hear from these strikers is their lives and their livelihood and their work is all about disrespect. At the airport is a disrespectful exercise in the lives of these men and women and thats why they are on strike and unfortunate that this has continued tonight in this chamber. But i do want to ask if it pleases this group that we go to the strikers first as they have been waiting patiently. Great. Good evening, board. I hope you can hear me. Im hoarse from yelling today. I was on the picket line today, so bear we me. The number one is why are you striking . Im confident in saying that if not all most of my coworkers would agree that we are striking because we feel we are above inflation and the cost of groceries is going up and health care. They want to deny Us Health Care because they dont want to pay the inflated costs and that is unacceptable. The items that i sell in my restaurant has gone up three times but i havent seen a raise and that makes it impossible to rest to sustain you. One job should be enough to cover your expenses and longterm care and expenses for life. There are a lot of people that come through sfo and spending your time and working isnt fair for any of the parties involved. We urge the board to get involved and we demand to be fully heard as well as understood. Thank you. Public speaker good evening, im gabriela. I worked at sfo since 1993. Covid has hit us like dominoes. If i had to pay for our health care, i would lose my health. Its mine, i have worked years. I have worked two jobs for 15 years at the airport. Sometimes even three jobs to try to make the payment and its impacted my health. Its impacted my health severely. Im tired. We are all tired. But instead of taking care of the workers, the Food Service Operators at sfo want to put the burden of health care on us. Its not right. You think they would take care of the people that take care of them. We are the face of the company. We are the face of San Francisco, you know . We want to be happy faces, not faces that are stressed out about trying to make ends meet or getting sick and not being able to get sick and not make the payments for it. We are asking to be fair, be kind and just be human. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening board of supervisors. My name is lucinda cho, i work at the airport to survive in the united terminal 3 and the terminal 2. They pay me on the 16. 99 per hour. I work a double shift and i cannot go home because its so far. I sleep in my car at the airport. Im very tired everyday. I have very little time to rest or sleep. I cannot afford gas because its very expensive. I cannot afford to live close by. I have to drive from south bay to work. Now the owner will not give us a raise and they want us to pay more for health care. That is not fair. I work very hard and we are tired of this. Thank you for your support. Thank you. We have vivian . [ applause ] public speaker good afternoon all board of supervisors. My name is vivian, i work at sfo since 2012. I have two jobs. I work at two stores in terminal 3. I work two jobs because our wages is not enough to meet our needs. One meal where i work goes for 21 and my rate is 18 per hour. We are so busy, we sell a lot of meals everyday. But my pay for my work for a whole hour of work is less than the price of just one meal. That is so unfair. We are all working. Because i work a double job, i do not have time to see my kids and grandkids. When i get home, i dont have energy for my family. I just go to bed. I put on my alarm again for tomorrow again. Im on strike because i want to quit my second job and have more time with my family. I want to take a rest because im so tired from two jobs sfeshlly especially if my coworkers call in sick. Please help supervisors. Tell the owner that one job should be enough. Thank you all. Thank you. Lorraine powell. Public speaker hi, im lorraine powell. Thank you for listening to our story. We represent the workers at the airport and concessions and restaurants. We have been bargaining this contract since last november and has been going on for months and we have been working with employers because they are trying to strip away our seniority rights and they are not agreeing to this Affordable Health care and nor make the improvements we need. Thats why we are out on strike and as said many of these workers in this room were on the picket line since 4 00 a. M. This morning. They are here tonight because they want your support in doing something about this. The employers havent been willing to give the wage increases they need. Many of these workers havent had an increase since 2018. Thats extremely painful at this point when we see inflation rising to the extent it is. These guys are having a really tough time making ends meet. Working two jobs is not a new thing at the airport. Many workers have had to do that before the pandemic. It has become a huge problem now at the airport where even a third of the workers have two and even three jobs since you were hearing from vivian and lucinda. They are one of many actually. Last night, you know, the consequences this causes the workers to have, they told you they dont get to see their children. I had a striker on the picket line. And she said its not something she is proud of but she has no choice. She has to pay her bills. Them sleeping in their cars. Lucinda has to do that because you live far away and starting your next shift at 4 00 a. M. Thats what people have to do. People showering in the bathroom at the airport because thats what they need to do because they have no choice. I have been around the airport for the last three years getting ready to negotiate this contract. I have been there only three years and only learned about this recently for the last month because as workers have told you they cant spend time with their family or i have to sleep in my car and now im hearing it over and over from people and that is the truth. Thats not right that at the airport, one of the best airports in the country that airports are in that situation. We are here today telling you about that so you can help us do something about it. So thats not the future for these workers. I have to say, the nonunion has been at the airport. There has been nonunion, but that also has increased drastically over the last couple years and that is a problem. The nonunion is dragging down this good standard that we have in the Union Concessions and restaurants. The nonunion, they are not paying for health care, not paying for a pension. The Union Employers bring that up to us and say we are already at 68 more than what we are paying, why should we be paying more, the difference will be even greater. You expect us to pay to our competition. So the nonunion are making it difficult to have these workers have a better standard. The airport now is helping us address that which is good and we are making some head way but i will say it continues to be a problem and we continue to struggle at the airport where they are treating us from the outside. These workers are the airport. They are going to be here. They are going to stay. The employers come and go. This is the airport and they should be treated with with respect and valued for it. This morning i was trying to talk to a worker about the picket line and why we are fighting and im being told by a duty manager that im not allowed in the restaurant. Thats not a Good Relationship and not working with us. Meanwhile i see the airport looking the other way with management. There is workers that came off the street a day ago and they have a key badge. There is no management in sight. These people are working alone and totally against the rules and that doesnt seem to be a problem. That is really frustrating that we are in that situation where we are being scrutinized over every detail but management is not. And we are not being respected for what we are trying to achieve here. So thank you for giving us this time to talk and present our situation, and i hope that we are moving forward here with a better standard at the airport that these guys deserve, thank you. Thank you. [ applause ] thank you president walton and board of supervisors. I want to pick up where lorraine left off because we need to look at quality at the airport and couple elements here. Lorraine talked about nonunion options. The airport has been helpful in the last several weeks trying to get on the right side of this and force labor peace the way it should be enforced but that went by the wayside. So as a result you have handful of nonUnion Operations that can essentially operate at a competitive advantage to the Union Operations. And at the same time, threaten their workers with termination if they talk to even organizers. They are, that seems to me the diametric opposite of peace. There is inequality with nonUnion Operations and the effect that has in dragging down the Union Operations and the pressure that puts on our negotiations. But there is also inequality at the airport that is being driven by this group, the multiem Employer Group. The multiEmployer Group has yet to make a commitment on health and welfare. And i got to tell you, these employers have not paid an increase in their health and welfare rate since february 1st of 2018. Now, i challenge anybody here to point to another company anywhere or institution or government or organizations that havent had health care increases over the last four 1 2 years. So they arent paying a single cent more in the last four 1 2 years. We are fighting the Hotel Companies for higher contributions and they are essentially subsidizing this group. That is unacceptable, unteenable. It cant continue on that path. So we have to keep an eye towards the inequality. They are not there. Lorraine, i think showed great restraint. Over nine months shes been at the table driving these negotiations along with all the men and women you see behind me here and many more of their coworkers. Our frustrations, they are frustrations spoiled over sometime ago. And it took a strike overwhelmingly over an a month ago they said we are ready to strike and even after that strike vote, we took to bargaining that last week. In that session, they still couldnt figure out our side, our members, our committee made Dramatic Movement trying to come up with a better deal and the other side on healthcare. Forget the wages, nothing i can say is more compelling that what the strikers said how this is affecting them and their lives. For having to pay healthcare for a group of companies that havent paid them more for four 1 2 years the fact that they cant get there, that told our Committee Everything we need to know. Thats why we are on strike, our picket lines are strong. We know strikes, we know our way around strikes. I have to tell you something, this group of workers, this is a tough group of workers. They are going to win this fight, they are going to win what they deserve because at the end of the day, they have a modest demand. They want to earn a decent wage so they dont have to sleep in their care, they deserve to have quality workplace and they deserve to have one job. We are going to invite you all, our leaders and representatives to help us in this fight and bring it home. Thank you very much. It is profoundly embarrassing to me that this is our airport and operating under leases that we have agreed to and entered into with them. To hear what is the reality for folks who are working at the airport under these agreements entered into with us. I know you provided some of this information, but just to reiterate, no increases, no wage or benefit increases since 2018, notwithstanding all of the inflationary changes and just natural rise in costofliving during that entire time. So what does that mean for the average worker at sfo. Where are they in terms of the food and beverage workers in terms of how much they are taking home and how much they are having to work to pay for this. The median wage, most workers make about 17. 25 an hour and i believe as many as a third work a second or third job. A lot of them within the airport eco system. They pick up other jobs. Do you have anything to add to that. The majority of the workers are earning 17 05 and they are the majority since 2017. The snack bar attend ants that work the most. I was out there yesterday and mike casey was saying Pretty Amazing numbers of workers have gone out that its an extraordinary number. I wonder if you can talk about it. Its overwhelming and all on social media and you can see the picket lines, they are loud and boisterous. I want to go back. They have been out on lines since 4 00 a. M. Today. They are going to keep it going. So i dont want to get too far into this union and nonunion issue because its not the core of where you are right now, but i think its important that while you are here to make sure that everyone on the board of supervisors understand. Some of my colleagues, this is new information for. That we have an increasing number of nonunion food providers at the airport and thats a change. Can you explain from your perception. Well ask director about this in a moment. But from your perspective. How could this have happened . I think some folks are shaking their head where there is nonunion operators, what . Whats going on with that . You should speak to this too, lorraine. We are supposed to have labor peace at the airport and supposed to be a condition in a lot of the Lease Agreements that you vote on and sign off on. The reality is whats been happening at least up until now whats been happening that seems to be a pro form a thing. The language is there, is there is an expectation potentially that they would do labor fees. They are signing the labor fees and the card check. The silent agreement, they are given the lease, there is no card check executed before they are awarded the lease. Once they are awarding the lease, they are in the space. We approach them and this is something that you have done. We have gone and asked them to sign the card check agreements and they refuse and we go and retain outside Council Counsel and they start an Intimidation Campaign with workers and chase the organizers away. Thats been made and the workers are scared to talk to the union after its been cleared by the bosses that its not acceptable to go for the union. So there is that and also not made clear for the people getting a lease that workers choose to be part of the union, the workers choose the union that there is a condition of the lease, they need to be part of the multiEmployer Group. So employer after employer, we find has no knowledge of that. They have no knowledge about the standards that exist at the airport. That Family Health care thats affordable that is a standard that weve had at the airport and they dont know it. Even the nicest employer is like what . Its not like these employers have any idea about Family Health care. They never pay it. Now we are in a conflict with them right off the bat because they didnt know what they were walking into and they are not prepared to do it. So its a problem. It really creates a bad dynamic for us to be able to resolve things and have them move forward. And like this one employer bacon bacon, those workers chose a year ago to be union. They signed union cards. Those cards, they refuse to let them be counted until january. So this day, these workers dont have Family Health care. These workers worked through the pandemic, frontline workers who take care of people from around the world. When the mask mandate stopped, a lot of the workers were getting covid and they are bringing it home to their families and they are infecting their families and that is outrageous. Thats the case for these workers. Some of them are out on the picket line and they are being told by their employer, you are not union. You cant do this, but they are out on the picket line, the ones that have had the courage to do that in the face of that. And there are some as an increasing number of operators who are acting in this way either through ignorance or willfulness of not meeting their obligations and there are people that have been at the airport for a while who are similarly resistant and not recognizing card check and not allowing for organizing, is that correct . True. Unquirked. Finally they have been 20 years at the airport. But still, i would sign the mou and it has not come back. With those workers, they havent signed the mou for a long time. The workers signed over an a month ago and they are dragging it out. It looks like my colleagues are interested in weighing in. Through the president , should i call it . Go ahead. Then supervisor ronen . Supervisor Hillary Ronen yes, thank you. I was wondering if can come up. I feel guilty about these leases that we approved and nothing can get passed this committee until workers get treated fairly. Can you tell us how you enter into leases with these companies that then play these games and dont abide by worker neutrality, labor peace. I feel like i really got caught off guard about this whole issue. We are not used to having labor peace. When you look at how the labor is structured, there is the labor peace card check obligation thats put upon the outlets, the new businesses, part of the problem too is we have a whole host of new businesses at sfo and i think thats caused a lot of that unfamiliarity of what the expectation is. In the lease, it talks about the card process. In the award for the lease is for them to come to a card check agreement. What the lease provides for is the Union Requests a card check agreement with the operators. If the operators fail to agree to a card check with the union within 30 days, the rule card check, the one thats attached to the lease goes into effect. There is a card check agreement after 30 days when the date is that the Union Requests to write a card check agreement. So the next step with that, the card check agreement has to write employees names to the unions and its up to the unions to actually conduct a ballot with the employees around their desire to be represented by the union. So we have had such stability and three are new. We have been working on a month 1 2 trying to resolve the issue and now have agreed to sign for the unions the mou with the union, so we are going throughout process with these 12 that started out as nonunion and let the employees vote what they wanted, what they are representation is. Thats the process that we go through. It starts with a request by the union to have a card check agreement. And there has been no currently no lessees in violation. One is getting close. The cafe is getting close. If they are nonresponsive to provide the names of the employees, the airport will take action against that one outlet. Right now, and i feel like part of the problem is we are not used to enforcing the requirements of this because we have worked together for so long and people know whats expected at the airport. So to be honest, when this came up about six weeks ago and this went up from zero to 100 and it wasnt even on my radar and the level of issues that we had with something that worked primarily between the unions and the em Employer Group. Is there an expectation that the workers should be provided health care for themselves and their family . Its an expectation that they honor the obligations, that the workers have that right to first select representation and beyond the obligations of the collective Bargaining Agreement and that does provide for the health and welfare, those obligations in the collective Bargaining Agreement. We definitely want to see them have their conversations similar to the airport worker ordinance and what thats provided for those workers. Thats been really important. I will just end here because i know its late and many people want to talk, but here is the situation. You are hearing the stories, this is not an exaggeration, they are sleeping in their cars, showering in the bathrooms at the airport and bringing covid to their families and they havent gotten a wage increase and Health Care Coverage increases and what are you doing to end this injustice. Thats what it is because its bringing down the esteem and an embarrassment that the airport of the city and county of San Francisco treats workers like dirt frankly because that is not humane, not dignified and its wrong. What are you doing and when i say you, its you and all of us to make sure that people that are the face of San Francisco airport in this city are treated with the respect they deserve . I agree with your comments. They deserve that and in the absence of a collective Bargaining Agreement, it falls back to the ordinance with the city and county of San Francisco to help carry the accountability ordinance. Thats a city issue. The airport isnt an island with our own rules and regs. We are subject to the city and county of San Francisco. I think thats the right question. What can we all do together to ensure these coverages exist. If i can bring up lorraine. What more can we be doing . I think i would ask you to look into the the apparatus. There is no question, nonissue, its an important issue and what we both said. The airport in the last several weeks, everything i have said is accurate. I think that there has been a real market shift and change and there is a real problem because you have these nonunions in places. They frighten the people and poison the well. Thats an issue to be dealt with. As far as the contract goes and the strike and the key issues of this strike, youve got to, thats on this multiEmployer Group. They are not where they need to be. Its unacceptable for these companies to come in to seek these leases and then nickel and dime or not even nickel and dime frankly, not spend a cent and be all too happy to let the hotels decide to subsidize their health care. That doesnt make sense. Whatever authority and power this body has, we ask that you relieve them of that. I think you do. You have at the end of the day they are tenants. We are working as tenants and you are the landlords. May i have a list of all the leases. Yes, we have that. Thank you. Supervisor safai . Supervisor ahsha safai yes, thank you. First and foremost i want to say to all the workers that came out today that we stand with you. We know that what you are experiencing is trauma right now to be dealing with trying to ask for basic services while you are coming to work everyday and in many cases as was referenced by some of the leadership, you have been putting your lives on the line for the last four years. Literally people have died because of covid and our airports have remained open and one of our economic engines in the entire area of San Francisco and you have put your lives on the line, you have served with dignity and respect and all you are asking is for basic human dignity. I want to recognize you first and foremost for all the work that you did and we see you and recognize and we stand with you first and foremost. As supervisor said, we have the authority and power, and we receive a lot of these leases and i will tell you it sounds like to me we had a problem for a few years at the sf mta in a very similar manner where card check neutrality and labor peace was not being respected. And we do have the ability to write stronger provisions to our leases. Its very disingenuous to have that labor peace upfront, im not pointing fingers but once that lease is signed and it is totally disrespected and the labor force is not getting recognized. I can tell you. Im very proud and know that many of these folks i represent. I represent so many of these individuals and thank god that years ago that many of these jobs were able to afford to live in nearby homes and many of the other folks that did not have that opportunity were ones sleeping in cars, commuting from long distances. I have to say this, i know for a fact that a good job with good healthcare, with good welfare, with good pension would provide for a stable workforce. We want that stable workforce at our airports. We dont want that turnover and want tremendous Customer Service and being the face of San Francisco at the airport. I think thats also another thing to consider when we are thinking about these things. I would just end, there has been tremendous inflation over the last nine months and i cannot imagine that there are not evening living wages that predates covid. And not to mention and im just going to put this out there, there is also another dichotomy at the airport, we have worked really hard at the budget and finance committee to ensure that our Public Employees were given a wage increase over a two year period and also not fair for the private sector for our employees to not have that benefit afforded to them in a Public Servant entity. We need to do better and know that we are going to work harder for you and provide more scrutiny and work with the director at the airport to look into these leases to be sure these labor pieces are respected and we need to bring this strike to a close and ensure that the Employee Working Group sits down at the table and recognize that this is a high priority for the city and county of San Francisco. Thank you. Thank you, supervisor safai. Supervisor mar . Supervisor eric mar thank you, supervisor mandelman. I would like to thank the workers and local 2 members for being at work and being on the picket line all day as well. Your dedication in how powerfully organized you are is really inspiring. I know i have been hearing about these problems for a while now for the entire year from workers at the airport, from local two, and this local and Contract Campaign and from a couple fridays ago where civil disobedience where we were arrested with a couple of you and that was to try to prevent where we are at today to try to really send a strong message to the multiemployee groups at sfo that this contract needs to be settled and workers need to be made whole for all the difficulty and challenges that they had to struggle through in the past two 1 2 years, really four years when the last raise was, but unfortunately we are here today where there is a strike and again, im going to be there and i know all of my colleagues will be there to support you in your actions but we really need the multigroups of sfo here and its bad for the city when this is happening. Director, i have a question for you. Again this has been building for months, right . At least november of last year. How could you let this happen . Why hasnt this been resolved sooner and why wasnt the strike prevented . There are two issues, supervisor, thanks. The two issues, the first is the expiration of the collective Bargaining Agreement agreement that expired in 2019. There is an mou thats in place that the original signing and to get the collective Bargaining Agreement and the other one is the outlets. Earlier this year i was aware of one that was a problem, i think it was bacon bacon. We heard about this and we sent a letter and we thought the issue was closed. And then up until six weeks ago the nonunion outlets was not well understood. We dont get a report, we dont generate a report. This is a relationship between the employers and the union and we werent getting any feedback that there was a problem brewing until we had a meeting that laid out the sheet with 12 different outlets that may be more than 20 because it also included the clubs, the Airline Lounges and then i really understood there was a much bigger issue. Ever since that point we have been trying to get through the process with these vendors to facilitate meetings to try to take the an animosity out of the atmosphere and not have it be poisoned. So when the vote is taken by the union there is a reasonable expectation that they are voting how they feel. Thats been how we have been involved and really part of the problem is we dont have the right structure to the Lease Agreement and we dont have the right controls that we should have to monitor and engage. We meet with the unions all the time. Weve got lots of unions and why it was surprising to me to go from 0100 i was wondering how did we get here. Its destroying the relationship and we sat back and maybe got too comfortable with that. Thank you. Can i appoint questions for the growth of the nonunion for service operators. It sounds like there is allegedly widespread violation with the card check new neutrality policy. First in our review and our City Attorneys review there was not widespread violations of the labor peace. In fact we dont believe there has been one violation. The one that i spoke about was the cafe and there is time blocking that they may be in violation. From how we read the agreement, there is no violation as of yet. Their trying to recruit to have that level of representation and coordination with the unions. The enforcement piece i think is a new element that we need to think about in the leases is what does that look like because this is not a relationship that the airport is in. This is a relationship between the Employer Group who they are the bargaining body for the restaurants and the union. So i think this is something we need to work on. Thank you, supervisor mar. Supervisor peskin . Supervisor aaron peskin thank you for this hearing and thank you to local 2 for being up since 4 00 this morning, to all of you to the director of sfo staff and mr. Kevin wesley who i have known along ago from the multiEmployer Group. We are the landlord. We are the landlord and the charter has very very specific land and we have the Unlimited Power of inquiry. So show me the leases, the six leases. I will read some of the names in a minute, but before i do that, lets talk about section 9. 118 of the charter. That is the provision of the charter thats been around from a quarter of the century from before my time that says that any contract with anticipated revenue of 1 million or more is subject to approval by the board of supervisors. Any modification for amendment or termination, even termination of such a contract is subject to approval by the board of supervisors. Any modification is subject to the board of supervisors. Any lease of ten years or longer in duration even option is subject to approval by the board of supervisors. I appreciate you, my existing ten colleagues on this board is i can guarantee you that this board will vote unanimously and i see my colleagues nodding that we will as a matter of policy as the landlords over sfo, as the board of directors if you will, we will as a matter of policy deny lease after lease, lease extension, lease modification, after lease modification until this matter has been favorably resolved. That is how its going to be. Thats what happened as a warning shot a little earlier in todays meeting. That is what is going to happen, 30 of these leases expire in the next two years. Some of them have already expired. Let me tell you about the 1 million of anticipated rent. The until guarantee of many of these leases is three and 400,000 a year. If any of these leases get approved by the board of supervisors. If you dont have a contract, nobody is going to be renting nothing at sfo. Thats all i have to say. [ applause ] here are the 40 that are expiring in the next 24 months. Burger joint, technologies, guava and java, jv, post international, marinas cafe, sf food ways llc, ss uncorked llc, taste on the fly in San Francisco, llc, sfo llc, sfp america and tortilla inc. All of those expire in the next 24 months. Thank you. Supervisor. Supervisor dorsey. [ applause ] i want to echo what my colleague supervisor peskin said what Everyone Needs to hear even the anonymity of the board of supervisors and i represent a district that is also for Convention Businesses and sports venues, numerous hotels. I want to do everything i can to be sure we are bringing business and tourism back, conventions back to San Francisco. But i am determined that is not going to be something that we are going to accomplish on the backs of working people and absolutely lock step with my colleagues here. I want to thank supervisor mandelman for hosting this and want to thank you for being here and for your patience. I wanted to say it because i think it needs to be heard by the Employer Groups especially. This board is going to be with you. I want to be sure we get back to those days like we had in 2019 when there were 26 million visitors. If we are going to be able to do that, we have to make sure that the people who are doing the work of sfo, are serving the travelers are paid fairly, and if you are not getting a raise in four 1 2 years, is clearly unfair. We are with you and thank you. Thank you, supervisor dorsey. [ applause ] supervisor dean preston thank you for your leadership on this and president walton as well. I will keep it short because colleagues have said the many things i have been thinking as well. I want to also add my voice to i think its one thing for the supervisors to say, all colleagues feel a certain way and certainly great to hear from all colleagues. There is no place for not complying with these provisions of these agreements all of these that supervisor peskin has explained in detail come back to this board and this body for approval. And i think that especially after these last couple years. It just breaks my heart that we are here. We had so many workers here earlier on strike at kaiser, we have so many workers here fighting for the most basic things and respect and in a workplace just after what we as a society have been through for the last two years that we are forcing folks to be, to strike just for this basic respect is just, im sorry you all have to be here. I thank you for going out on strike for being here for waiting the hours to speak with us, and we stand with you and well be with you and well be making sure at minimum that where the city holds these leases that they are complied with and will be coming through this body and well make sure that they comply with this. Thank you. I have a question later. We should probably let folks speak through Public Comment. Before we do that, i would like to thank the group for being here. You did better than kaiser in that regard. You dont have to say anything but if you wanted to, i will afford you that opportunity. Thank you, president walton and supervisors, i will speak for the multiemployee group. The first gentleman that spoke, spoke about inflation, thats the core issue for us. We have no issue with the union, and we have no issue with the airport. Our problem is if you look at history and supervisor peskin will remember when this happened. More than a decade go, the policy went above 10 percent that comes from the people that have to distribute the food through the airport and the acknowledgment that we know are going to work with union wages and union benefits. That 10 percent going to cover that. And as Wage Inflation hit, the airport was kind enough to give us the surcharge to close the gap on the negotiations that we had. At that moment in time, San Francisco did not have surcharges on the menu. We had basically 12 above the street. Whats happened is and you can look at the restaurants. You can look at one market and around 40 years, they are at a 4 surcharge, the market thats been there 15 years 5 surcharge. The cafe, they are at 6 surcharge. The largest organized restaurant in San Francisco is at 5 . Whats effectively happened at the airport is rather than restaurants on the street raising their prices, they have raised the surcharge and we are not allowed to take this surcharge to raising prices. And you have us at this vice grip. We have lost five percent of that in surcharges and our ability to go over the street right now is at seven percent. Its a real big problem. We have talked about this at the airport and talked about this issue and we are making progress on the issue. I think whats happened is the intent. Los angeles county lax is at 18 , san diego is at 15 surcharge. I believe we can move on to a session and move away from this crisis. We are in a vice grip here, sfo is through june when they publish the numbers is at 60 of employment from 2019. So we havent seen numbers for july and august, but our numbers, we are at 65 for the year. We are down to third, there is major inflation in food and we have raised some wages. I think our only message to you tonight is we understand the environment that we choose to work in. There is no one over here here tonight that has waited a long time to be heard that is breaking rules and weve got some new members of our group that are clearly breaking the rules and probably intentional and probably lack of education and when they do get card checked they let us know and they let us know what they are walking into and we are happy to work with them longterm so when people bid on their leases, we tell them these are the rules for the road and you should get organized at sfo. We respect the workers and everybody has been here a long time. Its just important that one problem that we have is we have been strangled with street pricing policy and never thought that they would be street pricing and our mark is by point. I thought the last discussion we had with the Labor Movement and we showed Labor Movement. If we can get some help in modernizing this street policy, we can do this in one session. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you, mr. Presley. Are you here to answer questions as well. A couple things that did not sit well with me, but you make the statement that you make connection with folks after they sign leases. We need to do something as a city to be sure that people are very clear before they are offered in San Francisco to sign the lease. That should be upfront and know exactly what the demand is of our employers whether they are at the airport or operating within these city limits. I do since you gave the data around the financials, etc. What is your solution to continue to lose money everyday while folks are outside on the street striking . What is your solution to helping to solve this problem . We would prefer to have labor harmony, and we think that all parties to the airport and the revenue that we provide them, the workers and the pay they get and us giving a fair markup against street, all that has to come together and this can go away for years. That would be my solution. Thank you. Supervisor peskin . Supervisor aaron peskin thank you, supervisor walton. Mr. Presley, i have known you for years and honest broker and good at what you do. I think the airport nicely said and it should not have come to this and whether its staff that worked with local 2 that is no longer with the airport, this should have been resolved. You are absolutely right. We are 3 plus 10 and there is room for an airport part solution. I see just what you see which is absolutely no reason that you cant get in a room and the airport has something to give. Your Employer Group has something to give. As you said local 2 has already given a lot and you have to sit down and work it out and we want to see this strike finished. I think you got two percent to move. Wrap it up tonight. Thank you, supervisor peskin. I dont see anymore questions from colleagues. I would like to give director sataro the opportunity. I know he said this was just brought to his attention and more recently caught off guard but that has been part of the negotiations here at city hall. What is your anticipation being involved in these negotiations now that you are aware of this situation and what was described by mr. Wesley in terms of the rooms that they need that they aren. What role can you play as director of the airport and working with negotiating with them and bringing this to this body . Thank you, supervisor. There was very Little Movement and started about an a month ago really getting back together post covid trying to get to a collective Bargaining Agreement. So there were iterations of just both parties. Both parties just no movement by the parties. I brought them together and said this has to change, we have to see movement. You have to get a new collective Bargaining Agreement. A couple days after that, they had a session as mr. Wesley described, there was movement from both sides. After that i expressed a willingness for the airport to participate as well and i recognize we were below other airports and below this city. We expressed that we should participate as well, and now we tried to get something going before the strike. I think there was so much momentum around this strike. We didnt have a meeting before this strike. So all parties understand the willingness to move and contribute towards that. A lot of work has been done and still more work to be done by the restaurant as well. Do you plan to host some of these negotiations to bring this session to close within the next day or two . I asked both sides to be prepared after 1 00 tomorrow as long as it takes to get to an agreement, stay in the room up at the airport fifth floor administrative offices. To be clear on the record, i hear you saying that the airport now has a role to play on moving from your end because it sounds like what i heard described by the Employer Group on the difference between 1218 and other competitive airports is significant. It sounds like the union has made some movements and employers seem to put something on the table. It would be great to hear that the airport is committed to getting this resolution resolved. We are, supervisor. Thank you. Supervisor Shamann Walton thank you, supervisor. Supervisor ahsha safai thank you director and mr. Wesley and ms. Powell. I think we should open this up for Public Comment. If folks that are in chambers, if you would like to sign up to that side of the room. And if there isnt anyone . Madam clerk, you can take it from here. Thank you, mr. President. Public testimony is now welcome. We will first hear testimony from those present in the chamber. Please lineup on your right as mr. Mandelman stated and then well hear from those who joined remotely. We do have interpreters still with us from the office of Civic Engagement and Civic Affairs and we have natalie and Marty Dickinson from land associates. If you can begin to let speakers know in their language. [foreign language] thank you, madam clerk. Thank you. Marty . Thank you both for your assistance this evening. We are going to welcome our speakers in line. If there are other languages speaking, our interpreters will assist you. Public speaker thank you. This is all well and good. Lets assume the workers get to strike and get a huge raise. I want it to be a huge raise. And they get the benefits of their pension covered. Thats only part of the equation. The only part of the problem and why im here is for decades in this room, the folks who are sitting in these seats and the folks who sat in these seats for the past 20 years, i just want to say shame on people. There is not an acceptable reason why these folks cant live 20 minutes from the airport. The reality is these folks live two hours from the airport which makes it impossible to get home in a timely manner. A lack of affordable Family Housing in this city has driven this problem to this point. That is the other happen of the education, so until we can get more help for this housing, a lot of this is lip service. Thank you very much for your time. Is there any other Public Comment on this matter . We will go to remote callers, there are three on the queue. Public speaker good evening supervisors, speaking on behalf of locals throughout the state of california. Many of those sister locals, i would remind everybody that have the ability to deliver those supplies each and everyday. The system also represents to this local 65 and both the thousands of women and men and as such we stand completely in solidarity with local 2 and share the frustration of all the members at local 2. Just as local 2 has been confronted with these problems, the teamsters also have been confronted for years and the private vendors who have been awarded leases, these vendors are national and International Corporations that are looking to squeeze profits while ignoring the real costofliving of workers in the event of sfo. We will continue to support local 2 at sfo fighting for workers and with those who stand in solidarity with labor in San Francisco airport. Thank you. Thank you for your comments this evening. If you are one of the four listeners who would like to provide Public Comment, please do so. Thank you. I just wanted to let all the workers know that although some of us because we work in the hospital couldnt be out on the line, that we support you 100 . I thank the board for the action that they are taking. Thank you, brenda for your comments this evening. All right. Mr. Atkins, lets hear from our next caller. Public speaker the supervisors and management [inaudible] we are having trouble hearing you. I said you shouldnt be shocked about the conditions at the airport. [inaudible] london breed, and the fact that they dont impress their own budget regulations [inaudible] sir, i have to interrupt you, sir. We just paused your time. You must be on a mobile phone. It is cutting in and out and we are not getting your entire comment. Im afraid to say you might want to hang up and call back in. Why dont we go to our next speaker and give you the opportunity to call back in that way we are actually hear what you are saying. Lets go to our next caller. Madam clerk, there are no further callers in the queue. Mr. Atkins, if you dont mind to wait for a moment in case that individual will call back. Okay, sir, did you want to give it one more try . You have a minute left. Im going to be on another phone. I just called in right now. Good. Please continue. Sir, perhaps your television, you are listening to your television, please turn down your television. We can hear you. I think it is no surprise to hear about management for whats going on. This union issue has been going on for years at the airport. Why are you surprised . Basically the airport is allowing this and thats whats going on at the airport. And it shows the tax on workers and that its not just at the airport. Its with kaiser and its happening with capitalism in this country. I think the workers need to all unite. I think what happened tonight is really important. At the we need all the workers at the airport to join together. Many is its not going to happen in this country because of the nature of the system. The system for profit and